Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

tankphobia

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I don't know, seems like while a lot got through, based of the footage of the skies being lit up by what I can only assume to be debris, there's at least a number of successful intercepts.

What options do Israel have to retaliate? Are they going through lob a few Jericho back or are they going to utilise the airforce the long way around?
 

_killuminati_

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Closer look from elevated angle at Nevatim airbase as it got pounded
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Different upclose angle (3rd video)
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More angles
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Saturation launch from Iran!!
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Gas installation, Ashkelon
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It was a saturation attack. Nonetheless, it was clearly visible in the videos that dozens of missiles were intercepted: I saw at least one exo-atmospheric kill.

Of all missiles, ballistic are the easiest to estimate where they are heading. They follow a ballistic arc, and the type Iran launched is easy to track in its boost phase.

Iran gave no such warning to airlines. A guy on a flight from Dubai posted a video of missiles flying eerily nearby their plane. It’s a testament to how advanced American-Israeli technology and training are that no airliners were harmed, despite hundreds of missiles in the air.
I saw a handful interceptions max, not 24, 36 or 48.

It is not possible to predict the trajectory of a ballistic missile that can alter its flight path, a tech Iranis have possessed since the 1990s. American and Israeli BMD were built for non-maneuvrable Scud-type rockets that fly in straight, predictable arcs at low speeds. We know what Israel's defence looks like when Hezbollah or Palestine fires - interceptor rockets taking off enmasse - that was totally missing here and in the previous Irani strike.

Iran gave official warning to the foreign government(s); it's up to the latter how they wish to relay it domestically. But we know atleast it was presented in the media prior to the attack. If civilian airline operators choose to continue operations in the zone, despite warnings, it is entirely their own fault should they win the Darwin Award by chance. It's not a testament to technology but rather to Irani warnings which airliners heeded and cleared the way which is SOP around the world everywhere.

Which flight from Dubai flies over Israel where this guy caught a glimpse of the missiles eerily nearby? Or was he flying in space with the missiles? Lol. FlyDubai is the only such carrier and it cancelled all of it's flights to Tel Aviv early in the morning.

Your Hasbara suite needs a new EW upgrade.
 

tankphobia

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But ultimately, one can argue that demonstrating the futility of BMD against mass BM usage probably enhanced the deterrent effect of ICBMs worldwide and waking up the public to the horrors of possible great power conflict.

Even if this situation spirals, just the demonstration that an caged and deprived opponent can still do this much damage against an extremely technologically advanced defender should make leaders think twice about starting anything.

Something like this could be just the first wave against a CSG.
 

Zichan

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Closer look from elevated angle at Nevatim airbase as it got pounded
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Saturation launch from Iran!!
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I saw a handful interceptions max, not 24, 36 or 48.

It is not possible to predict the trajectory of a ballistic missile that can alter its flight path, a tech Iranis have possessed since the 1990s. American and Israeli BMD were built for non-maneuvrable Scud-type rockets that fly in straight, predictable arcs at low speeds. We know what Israel's defence looks like when Hezbollah or Palestine fires - interceptor rockets taking off enmasse - that was totally missing here and in the previous Irani strike.
You do realize that Arrow missiles will make intercepts outside the atmosphere? Those are unlikely to have been caught on camera, especially given that Arrow 3 has a range of over 2000km.

What we see on the videos are likely David Sling intercepts. If you pay close attention, you can observe that a good number of the missiles are falling apart as they are descending, having been hit before the camera panned to them.

Iran gave official warning to the foreign government(s); it's up to the latter how they wish to relay it domestically. But we know atleast it was presented in the media prior to the attack. If civilian airline operators choose to continue operations in the zone, despite warnings, it is entirely their own fault should they win the Darwin Award by chance. It's not a testament to technology but rather to Irani warnings which airliners heeded and cleared the way which is SOP around the world everywhere.
 
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Sinnavuuty

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Because many of the videos show different angles of the same attack on Nevatim airbase that received around 20 hits. I’m not saying there couldn’t be more, but that’s what I saw.

I didn’t see evidence of cluster warheads. Can you provide an example?
There is no evidence that these are different angles. You said you only saw 30 hits but in only one video there were more than 25 hits, the rest like in Tel Aviv there were clearly more than 10. Either you didn't see them or you don't want to accept reality. Besides, that's not even the real issue here, because most of the videos we saw were of the fragmentation warheads that each ballistic missile launched can carry, only a few videos were of single warhead missile hits. The other thing is that we saw many, many more hits than interceptions.
 

Sinnavuuty

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You do realize that Arrow missiles will make intercepts outside the atmosphere? Those are unlikely to have been caught on camera, especially given that Arrow 3 has a range of over 2000km.

What we see on the videos are likely David Sling intercepts. If you pay close attention, you can observe that a good number of the missiles are falling apart as they are descending, having been hit before the camera panned to them.
Arrow 2 is an endoatmospheric interceptor.
 

Zichan

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There is no evidence that these are different angles. You said you only saw 30 hits but in only one video there were more than 25 hits, the rest like in Tel Aviv there were clearly more than 10. Either you didn't see them or you don't want to accept reality. Besides, that's not even the real issue here, because most of the videos we saw were of the fragmentation warheads that each ballistic missile launched can carry, only a few videos were of single warhead missile hits. The other thing is that we saw many, many more hits than interceptions.
Aren’t you arguing against yourself by claiming those were not unitary warheads? By that logic we can divide the number of hits to arrive at a much lower number of missiles that got through.
 
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