Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

jiajia99

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It’s not “ready”. It may think it is, but this will go worse than 2008, especially with the dead from gaza, loss of equipment, and the fact that their economy is in ruins.
The lower Israel is willing to go, the response sooner or later will ultimately begin to match what Israel is capable of as a response. The question is, is whether can take what it dishes out with the same smug expression they always seem to wear
 

LuzinskiJ

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Snowden on the X platform says that it is possible that the breach/hack occurred during manufacturing, which means that it is possible that the Israelis recruited someone at the main factory (not in Lebanon but in Taiwan) and made a defect in the devices, or they bought technical parts and made a defect in them and waited for the right moment.
I wonder how much the US had to do with corrupting this manufacturing process? But either way, Taiwan's reputation for electronic devices integrity just took a huge hit. And its supply chains will be associated with the clandestine Israeli kill chain for a while... sad.
 

CrazyHorse

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I wonder how much the US had to do with corrupting this manufacturing process? But either way, Taiwan's reputation for electronic devices integrity just took a huge hit. And its supply chains will be associated with the clandestine Israeli kill chain for a while... sad.
Remember, it’s possible that Israel intercepted the devices between the factory and the customer.
 

_killuminati_

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Israel has close links with the Maronite factions within Lebanon - the Kataeb, NLP, Marada, etc. They've colluded many times previously in operations against both Hezbollah and other Islamic groups in the country (i.e. the Sabra & Shatila Massacre).

It's more likely that the internal anti-Hezbollah groups were involved in this situation, as they make up a significant section of the general Lebanese society. A single nefarious supplier/distributor within the market can do this.
 

RedMetalSeadramon

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This pager attack seems quite strange, simple but sophisticated to the point I really doubt their version of the story.

Seeing videos of these pager explosions, they're too sizable, quick and violent to be a simple (and tiny!) battery explosion. I suspect they've been manufacturing and selling pagers and devices with small explosives and selling them, disguised among real devices.

Here's a supposed video of the attack, shows someone fiddling with their pager right before it blows up - no blood or gore but I have no clue if the person survived.
This is not result of remote hacking. Explosives were planted in those pagers. Lithium ion + plastic isn't going to build enough pressure to cause that kind of explosion.
I am guessing that given pagers are a little more bulky than cellphones they could fit a small amount of explosives into the body of the pager which would not appreciably change the weight? Then they could send a special signal to the pagers which would trigger the explosives.
These would have to had been intercepted at some point while shipping. No one can tell how much a pager is suppose to weight if they don't have a point of reference.

Open it up, find an extra slot on the board, attach to blasting cap, crack program so it gives signal to blasting cap at specific code, fill with TnT/Comp B, put back together.
 

muddie

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Again proves 1) there is a massive discrepancy between Israeli intelligence and technological capabilities vs. Iran/Iranian allies, 2) Iran is a leaky ship susceptible to sabotage and covert attacks.

It does look like that outside of the 9 deaths, the injuries sustained by most are relatively light and unlikely to impact Hezbollah's personnel count. If the explosive was bigger, would have been a very humiliating loss if close to 3K Hezbollah members were instantly killed.
 

tankphobia

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I'm surprised if they were concerned that mobile phones were unsecured, they would at least take one of those pagers apart before giving it to operatives.

Seems like these devices were across all levels of the organisation, a very targeted attack but once exhausted unlikely to be effective again.
 
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