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Petrolicious88

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The risk of a retaliatory strike now would potentially come at an extremely high cost if it meant war with the US/Israel. In fact, there is already a Iran-led containment around this:
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Iran says it will not take ‘hasty action’ against Israel for killing of Hamas political leader

Contrary to what it had initially said, Iran said today that, after all, it “will not take any hasty action” and that it “will take its time to take revenge on Israel” for the elimination of Palestinian leader Ismail Haniyeh.

This is the price one pays for not having a military force on standby, and on top of that, Iran is completely discredited, with military officials saying they would take revenge when their actions do not show this and it is a slap in the face to the credibility of official statements – military and civilian – from Iran.

Yes. Been saying that since the beginning.

Basic risk - benefit calculus. There’s complete overmatch when it comes to firepower. They angry. But not much they can do about it. Maybe a symbolic retaliation here and there. But you don’t go tit for tat with the U.S. military.
 

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Yes. Been saying that since the beginning.

Basic risk - benefit calculus. There’s complete overmatch when it comes to firepower. They angry. But not much they can do about it. Maybe a symbolic retaliation here and there. But you don’t go tit for tat with the U.S. military.
Is that what you also said for Israel when they waited months to do a retaliation on Iranian soil that still didn't kill any Iranians?

You don't go tit for tat with a country that has all your powerplants under gunpoint either.
 

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A few months ago, a Chinese owned cargo ship came under attack. Before that a Serbia owned ship was attacked.
Can you stop spreading misinformation? That "Chinese" ship was British owned and transfered to a Hong Kong holding company created literally 2 months before the attack and which only owns this particular ship.

Not to mention if you search this holding company's name, the only similarly named companies are all registered to the UK or tax havens like Malta, Bermuda, Bahamas, British Virgin Islands, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.

Anyone can create an anonymous holding company in HK, it doesn't make it "Chinese"

PS: It spent most of this year transiting between Indian ports (Mumbai, Mundra, Kakinada, etc)
 
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Can you stop spreading misinformation? That "Chinese" ship was British owned and transfered to a Hong Kong holding company created literally 2 months before the attack and which only owns this particular ship.

Not to mention if you search this holding company's name, the only similarly named companies are all registered to the UK or tax havens like Malta, Bermuda, Bahamas, British Virgin Islands, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.

Anyone can create an anonymous holding company in HK, it doesn't make it "Chinese"

PS: It spent most of this year transiting between Indian ports (Mumbai, Mundra, Kakinada, etc)


My research on this after the Brits and media the ship as Chinese came to same conclusion. I found any reports from the Brits and US agencies and media relating to Houthi activities cannot be taken at face value.
 

Petrolicious88

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Can you stop spreading misinformation? That "Chinese" ship was British owned and transfered to a Hong Kong holding company created literally 2 months before the attack and which only owns this particular ship.

Not to mention if you search this holding company's name, the only similarly named companies are all registered to the UK or tax havens like Malta, Bermuda, Bahamas, British Virgin Islands, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.

Anyone can create an anonymous holding company in HK, it doesn't make it "Chinese"

PS: It spent most of this year transiting between Indian ports (Mumbai, Mundra, Kakinada, etc)

That may be true regarding the ship’s ownership. If so I stand corrected. But do you think it’s also true that the Houthis are only attacking US/UK and those linked to Israel? Many of the ships that were attacked have almost nothing to do with the current conflict.

COSCO for example have ceased transporting goods through the Red Sea.

Also, the impact on Israel is likely minimal as their primary ports are located along the Mediterranean coast.
 
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Petrolicious88

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My research on this after the Brits and media the ship as Chinese came to same conclusion. I found any reports from the Brits and US agencies and media relating to Houthi activities cannot be taken at face value.

Who do you trust when it comes to Houthi activities?? Point us to the right direction.
 

Minm

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The risk of a retaliatory strike now would potentially come at an extremely high cost if it meant war with the US/Israel. In fact, there is already a Iran-led containment around this:
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Iran says it will not take ‘hasty action’ against Israel for killing of Hamas political leader

Contrary to what it had initially said, Iran said today that, after all, it “will not take any hasty action” and that it “will take its time to take revenge on Israel” for the elimination of Palestinian leader Ismail Haniyeh.

This is the price one pays for not having a military force on standby, and on top of that, Iran is completely discredited, with military officials saying they would take revenge when their actions do not show this and it is a slap in the face to the credibility of official statements – military and civilian – from Iran.
As others have pointed out, no country in the world except China can win a symmetric war against the US+Israel, so it would be silly for Iran to provoke one. The demonstration that they can hit Israel and penetrate the iron dome is enough. Once they have a working nuclear weapon, they won't need to demonstrate this ability again. As they produce more nuclear material every day, they get safer and safer from Israeli aggression every day. It's quite notable that Israel was careful to avoid killing any Iranians in its attack.

Meanwhile, Iran is providing weapons to Hezbollah all the time. Isn't it better to retaliate quietly by providing them with an additional delivery of missiles rather than doing an official attack that will only strengthen netanyahu?
 

_killuminati_

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Who do you trust when it comes to Houthi activities?? Point us to the right direction.
Western sources multiplied by -1.

Independent, on-field reports. Images, videos without commentary. Documentary footage.

If the Yemenis claim they've done something, it is always questionable. But if they provide with it supplementary footage of destroyed drones, ships on fire, or if international sources confirm it from their end or with corroborating evidence, or if the victims have recorded it on their smart phones (i.e. residents of Eilat, Haifa, Tel Aviv), it is believable - and that's exactly what Yemen has mostly done, as well as Hezbollah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, al-Qassam, al-Quds, Hamas, etc., even Iran.

What's really questionable is CIA-oligarchy saying it has targetted somebody in Yemen, or the Apartheid saying it has killed xyz number of Hamas. Ofcourse, they have zero corroborating evidence nor is there any footage or documentation by anyone else.

Western audience is generally very gullible; they'll believe anything their government or media says without verifying. It doesn't work too well on the rest of the world. We're talking here people who think a man with a dialysis machine attached to him survived a decade of bombing while on the run in the mountains of Afghanistan, that the #1 enemy was killed and body thrown in the sea without a shred of evidence.
 
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Who do you trust when it comes to Houthi activities?? Point us to the right direction.

Do your own research it is not too hard since you appear to have too much time eagerly spreading falsehood without critically validating. Most if not all the reported ships headed to Iran, China either never ended up in Iran or China or have other primary destinations before they arrive to China.

You initiated these claim so you need to provide the evidence for your bold claim that is free from western manipulation and propaganda. No? Where are evidence for your claims that can provide sufficient proof.
 
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