Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

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gelgoog

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JJD1803 said:
Russia’s largest cargo plane the AN-124 has landed in Tehran. I’m surprised the West isn’t raising alarm about this. Many are concluding this could be Russia’s way of preventing further escalation after Iran strikes Israel. Meaning make Iran’s already deadly and redundant air defense even more deadlier with advanced air defense system and EW equipment. Basically
making it even more difficult to strike Iran.
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Yes the Ruslan is often used to deliver aircraft like the post said. Or other large weapons systems.
They take the wings off the aircraft and deliver them partially disassembled like that. Then the wings are put back together into the aircraft in the destination country.
 
phrozenflame

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sheogorath said:
That has more to do with the creditors being quite aware that the west will keep pumping money into Israel to keep it afloat regardless. Their economy, outside of weapons, is as fake as the country.
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So in a way you agree that the news piece is completely irrelevant, Western support isnt going to dissapear for a long time.

paknet said:
Israel is a western settler colonial project with artificial propped up economy and few natural resources of its own. Majority of the people there are just westerners with dual nationality who will run back to their countries if the situation does not improve in the coming weeks. They have already lost their invincible reputation with Oct 7 and what has been happening since then with Hezbollah and Iran. There is no comparison with China or Russia this is what the reality is on the ground.
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Sir, can you also tell us the exact date or in how many weeks will Israel's population pack up and leave under current circumstances? How many are few weeks? 3? 6? 12? or is it a range? 6-7 or perhaps 12-15 weeks? Out of courtesy, I will say that what you suggest is at best speculative.

A reminder that the illegal settlements have expanded during this time of conflict. < This is a fact.
 
TK3600

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paknet said:
Israel is a western settler colonial project with artificial propped up economy and few natural resources of its own. Majority of the people there are just westerners with dual nationality who will run back to their countries if the situation does not improve in the coming weeks. They have already lost their invincible reputation with Oct 7 and what has been happening since then with Hezbollah and Iran. There is no comparison with China or Russia this is what the reality is on the ground.
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That is just cope. Gaza is fighting for its life and death, not Israel. If Israel lose, they waste some American tax money, if they win they get new territory. The stake is not the same. The only possible losers are Gaza or Americans.
 
sheogorath

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phrozenflame said:
So in a way you agree that the news piece is completely irrelevant, Western support isnt going to dissapear for a long time.
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Not really, I wouldn't bet on that. Specially if Israel's existence becomes even more of liability to the point where no amount of AIPAC money can save them.

It could easily happen in the next 10 years at rate they are burning through global support.
 
obj 705A

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Overbom said:
if you don't see why when Israel literally assassinated in the middle of their capital, an Iran-invited guest at the inauguration of their new Iranian President, then dunno what more I can write.

don't be surprised when Israel gets further emboldened and keeps up such assassinations.

see, the Israeli I met recently was right after all, "all bark, no bite"
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while it's true that the assassination happened on Iranian soil however Israel did not lay a single scratch on any Iranian citizen in the assassination. they only killed a Palestinian leader and his Palestinian body guard probably by having an Iranian Mossad agent fire a shoulder launched missile or something.

if Hamas themselves were asked whether they would want a ceasefire & an end to the conflict or they instead want Iran to sabotage a ceasefire to avenge Ismail by shooting missiles at a bunch of empty buildings and at best maybe destroy one or two aircrafts at the airbases. then I'm sure Hamas itself would tell Iran to forget avenging Ismail for the sake of the ceasefire, in that case Iran will not go out of it's way to sabotage the situation for Hamas.

in the end I would say this is all hypothetical because there will be no ceasefire. the only reason why there is now talk of a ceasefire is probably to buy time for Israel to prepare for any possible escalation.
 
TK3600

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obj 705A said:
while it's true that the assassination happened on Iranian soil however Israel did not lay a single scratch on any Iranian citizen in the assassination. they only killed a Palestinian leader and his Palestinian body guard probably by having an Iranian Mossad agent fire a shoulder launched missile or something.

if Hamas themselves were asked whether they would want a ceasefire & an end to the conflict or they instead want Iran to sabotage a ceasefire to avenge Ismail by shooting missiles at a bunch of empty buildings and at best maybe destroy one or two aircrafts at the airbases. then I'm sure Hamas itself would tell Iran to forget avenging Ismail for the sake of the ceasefire, in that case Iran will not go out of it's way to sabotage the situation for Hamas.

in the end I would say this is all hypothetical because there will be no ceasefire. the only reason why there is now talk of a ceasefire is probably to buy time for Israel to prepare for any possible escalation.
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A precision kill is honestly a bigger flex. It is saying "I can kill anyone, anywhere in your country. If you value your life, you know what to do. If you go along with me, you will not be collateral damage."
 
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