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I'm honestly quite aghast that a relatively educated and smart forum such as this have quite a number of Houthi supporters.
Presumably non of these supporters are Houthis themselves.
Let me repeat.. The Houthis are NOT saints.
Regardless of what you think of Israel or the evils of American 'imperialism', supporting or advocating for the Houthis just because they are shooting a few AsMs at US ships etc. is borderline insane.
You are talking about a group of folks not too different than the ISIS or African warlords who wouldn't think twice about kidnapping children to be soldiers, pillaging villages and mass raping young girls.
They have been.implicated in mass torture and other human rights abuse of thousands of people.
A Houthi militant wouldn't think twice about murdering you and raping your wife and daughter or hold you for ransom if you were to nonchalantly go visit north Yemen.
And the same goes for an IDF militant if you were nonchalantly to visit the areas they have been unleashed to terrorize civilians. Or what about the ISIS fighters on US' side that killed hundreds of civilians in Xinjiang?
A large portion of everyday Yemenis hate them.
Sorry for my rant but some folks here are just ridiculous!
A signficant portion of almost every country hate their governments, same in Israel and Iran. Especially because the Yemeni government is not exactly a paragon of human development.

The reality of geopolitics is that sometimes you need to work with the lesser evil to stop the greater evil from coming to your country... We want neither IDF nor houthi scum to have power to threaten Chinese interests internationally. But only one of them have shown an interest to being an enemy at this point.
 

RottenPanzer

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Frankly, why shouldn't China sell weapons to Iran if Iran is willing to buy?
Iran is extremely picky on buying Military Hardware tbh, there is a reason why for the least decade they haven't received any new Aircrafts like Su-35s. Besides buying it, they also demand a Transfer of Technology.

I'm honestly quite aghast that a relatively educated and smart forum such as this have quite a number of Houthi supporters.
Presumably non of these supporters are Houthis themselves.
Let me repeat.. The Houthis are NOT saints.
Regardless of what you think of Israel or the evils of American 'imperialism', supporting or advocating for the Houthis just because they are shooting a few AsMs at US ships etc. is borderline insane.
You are talking about a group of folks not too different than the ISIS or African warlords who wouldn't think twice about kidnapping children to be soldiers, pillaging villages and mass raping young girls.
They have been.implicated in mass torture and other human rights abuse of thousands of people.
A Houthi militant wouldn't think twice about murdering you and raping your wife and daughter or hold you for ransom if you were to nonchalantly go visit north Yemen.
A large portion of everyday Yemenis hate them.
Sorry for my rant but some folks here are just ridiculous
Comparing the Houthis with ISIS is just ridiculous. The Houthis are more liberal and Republican in nature in comparison to the more Fundamentalist offshot, that is the Salafist and even then, they consider the Salafists as their main enemy. Houthis could be viewed as an Iranian Theocratic iteration on the basis of the North Yemen foundation.
 
I'm honestly quite aghast that a relatively educated and smart forum such as this have quite a number of Houthi supporters.
Presumably non of these supporters are Houthis themselves.
Let me repeat.. The Houthis are NOT saints.
Regardless of what you think of Israel or the evils of American 'imperialism', supporting or advocating for the Houthis just because they are shooting a few AsMs at US ships etc. is borderline insane.
You are talking about a group of folks not too different than the ISIS or African warlords who wouldn't think twice about kidnapping children to be soldiers, pillaging villages and mass raping young girls.
They have been.implicated in mass torture and other human rights abuse of thousands of people.
A Houthi militant wouldn't think twice about murdering you and raping your wife and daughter or hold you for ransom if you were to nonchalantly go visit north Yemen.
A large portion of everyday Yemenis hate them.
Sorry for my rant but some folks here are just ridiculous!

You should be more aghast that you actually believed what you just wrote.
Best that you start questioning your source of information.
Houthis may not be saints but they are nowhere near what you wrote.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
I am not a Houthi supporter nor am of Houthi background, and I am fairly pretty f..ng confident none of us are on this forum. Having said that the things you described that Houthis have been alleged to have committed if were brutally frank are no different than what the U.S. and it's "allies" have done since WWII.
Why only since WW II? Why not WWII itself?
Are you wishing the allies had lost and Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan rule the world?
While I do not blindly believe that everything the US does is of pure benevolence, just because someone is lobbing cruise missiles at US ships AND also civilian cargo ships doesnt make them saints.
I'm no fan of Zionism either but just because someone is also against them does not make them my friend.
If you are no fan of the Houthis then obviously my initial post wasnt targeted at you ergo your long response wouldn't be necessary.
 

FriedButter

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I am not a Houthi supporter nor am of Houthi background, and I am fairly pretty f..ng confident none of us are on this forum. Having said that the things you described that Houthis have been alleged to have committed if were brutally frank are no different than what the U.S. and it's "allies" have done since WWII.

What the Houthis and others like it lack is the total information dominance and therefore psychological and information warfare that U.S. have in spades. The Houthis and it's like minded groups don't have the power to shape perception of people around the world; they don't have the power to create and weave a narrative to establish a new reality on the ground. The center of gravity on this ongoing conflict is the public support and attention from the people that live in the global south, since people in the west don't really have any real power (despite their loud and obnoxious way of disruption ) to create any meaningful change from their respective government.

So whatever disgusting s...t and atrocities that have been committed wether intentionally or unintentionally can only surface through leaks ala the Pentagon papers, Eric Snowden, Manning, Julian Assange. The scariest thing about the U.S. is that it could literally white wash it's grotesque killings and crimes against humanity like it's colonial father the British and her colonial cousins of Europe, namely, France, Spain, Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands, Portugal...

I wouldn't be this indignant against America and her actions if you folks were not only arrogant but also flaming f..ng hypocrites ready to brandish and label my country of origin as committing genocide against its own ethnic minority of Uyghurs calling its legal actions against would be Islamist terrorists and separatists as being placed in concentration camps, hilariously labeling the reeducation to deradicalized affected individuals as genocide and cultural genocide.

So, I don't know why you're complaining and acting incredulous that some of the comments from the members here aren't too enamored with America and the country that's busy pulverizing it's enemies, damn the civilians, then complain when the survivors of these latest events become the next terrorists against them; and freedom fighters to the side that see themselves as victims and oppressed to what they view and see as their own land until 1949.

You are talking to someone who is having a hard time believing that assassinating an official on the presidential inauguration inside the presidential compound is not a serious escalation.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
I don't know for sure if Houthi has or has not done any of those atrocities you mentioned. I just want to ask do you also happens to believe in Uyghur genocide too? With the shear amount of western fabrication about anyone they don't like I'd be very cautious to any "news report" about this or that atrocities. I hope you're not as dumb as I think and do have solid proofs about everything you said, if so do provide them.

OTH we have overwhelming evidence about Israeli and American atrocities, what are your thoughts about them may I ask?
You dont have to believe me. There are tons of reputable and non biased accounts out there;
but hey, if deep down you think the Houthis are basically Santa's elves delivering presents to lil kids and are just a group of misunderstood pacifists then more power to you.
You are free to believe what you want chief.
 

_killuminati_

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I'm honestly quite aghast that a relatively educated and smart forum such as this have quite a number of Houthi supporters.
Maybe you ought to check your own education, then you might not be so aghast.

Presumably non of these supporters are Houthis themselves.
Let me repeat.. The Houthis are NOT saints.
Regardless of what you think of Israel or the evils of American 'imperialism', supporting or advocating for the Houthis just because they are shooting a few AsMs at US ships etc. is borderline insane.
Resisting imperialism isn't insane. It's an innate, natural behavior.

You are talking about a group of folks not too different than the ISIS or African warlords
Now you are gonna educate us on how a Zaidi Qutbi group who targets imperialists and Israel is not much different than a Wahhabi group who has never attacked imperialists and Israel?

I see now why you are so aghast - because you actually don't know anything.

who wouldn't think twice about kidnapping children to be soldiers, pillaging villages and mass raping young girls.
They have been.implicated in mass torture and other human rights abuse of thousands of people.
Everybody is implicated in something by Western propaganda. Everybody except Israel who commits war crimes openly with pride. For a normal person I would've said I'm quite aghast, but for a lowly educated and willfully ignorant person I say I'm not surprised at your attempt to equate an open committer of endless war crimes (existent reality: US and Israel) - to a nonexistent, imaginary reality of would be's, where Yemenis would be committing all those crimes that US and Israel already commit.

You sound like a Zionist nutter high on Hollywood Koolaid projecting all your crimes onto others and calling them bad while not recognizing it as bad on yourself.

The amount of evil, war crimes, torture, rape, genocide, ethnic cleansing, etc., that Israel and US (and their settler colonial ancestors) have done in the last 100 years is staggering and mountainous compared to even the likes of ISIS.

Your lies don't work anymore. They did for a while on your own population who's biggest concern in life was football and beer, and the rest of the world was too weak to speak. Now the tables have turned - you are in decline, the world has changed. We don't buy your drivel because most of us (the world) were victims of your brutality.

A Houthi militant wouldn't think twice about murdering you and raping your wife and daughter or hold you for ransom if you were to nonchalantly go visit north Yemen.
More would be's. Once you open the box of would be's, you are opening a box of infinite possibilities that are impossible to predict. Are you a Houthi militant? How do you know they wouldn't? Do they carry Anglo-Saxon genes?

A large portion of everyday Yemenis hate them.
Sorry for my rant but some folks here are just ridiculous!
Houthis are the everyday Yemenis!
 
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