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"No surprise since Bibi allowed Oct 7th to happened which allowed Bibi to degrade hamas so much that they are a shell of their former self and will remain that way for the foreseeable future."
Well Hamas at this point is still fully operational. They had to rotate out what, 3 battalions out of 24? That's not even AFU levels of losses.
Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

Btw, I wish people here would stop referring to Benjamin Netanyahu/Mileikowsky as "Bibi." That's like referring to Adolf Hitler as "Adi."
Bibi is more il dunce than dolfy. Idiot ally committing every war crime yet failing to win easy battles, so they grief all the plans of their much more superior ally by crying for help all the time.

1 Haniyeh for 4.5 trillion $ market cap, you can even ignore whatever weapons Iran is gonna shove up Israel in the coming days, that alone is a great trade deal in the history of trade deals.

Think Americans need an Israeli social republic... Assume direct control.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
I'm honestly quite aghast that a relatively educated and smart forum such as this have quite a number of Houthi supporters.
Presumably non of these supporters are Houthis themselves.
Let me repeat.. The Houthis are NOT saints.
Regardless of what you think of Israel or the evils of American 'imperialism', supporting or advocating for the Houthis just because they are shooting a few AsMs at US ships etc. is borderline insane.
You are talking about a group of folks not too different than the ISIS or African warlords who wouldn't think twice about kidnapping children to be soldiers, pillaging villages and mass raping young girls.
They have been.implicated in mass torture and other human rights abuse of thousands of people.
A Houthi militant wouldn't think twice about murdering you and raping your wife and daughter or hold you for ransom if you were to nonchalantly go visit north Yemen.
A large portion of everyday Yemenis hate them.
Sorry for my rant but some folks here are just ridiculous!
 

TK3600

Major
Registered Member
I'm honestly quite aghast that a relatively educated and smart forum such as this have quite a number of Houthi supporters.
Presumably non of these supporters are Houthis themselves.
Let me repeat.. The Houthis are NOT saints.
Regardless of what you think of Israel or the evils of American 'imperialism', supporting or advocating for the Houthis just because they are shooting a few AsMs at US ships etc. is borderline insane.
You are talking about a group of folks not too different than the ISIS or African warlords who wouldn't think twice about kidnapping children to be soldiers, pillaging villages and mass raping young girls.
They have been.implicated in mass torture and other human rights abuse of thousands of people.
A Houthi militant wouldn't think twice about murdering you and raping your wife and daughter or hold you for ransom if you were to nonchalantly go visit north Yemen.
A large portion of everyday Yemenis hate them.
Sorry for my rant but some folks here are just ridiculous!
Interesting, where can I learn more about the average yemeni on Houthi?
 

Petrolicious88

Senior Member
Registered Member
I'm honestly quite aghast that a relatively educated and smart forum such as this have quite a number of Houthi supporters.
Presumably non of these supporters are Houthis themselves.
Let me repeat.. The Houthis are NOT saints.
Regardless of what you think of Israel or the evils of American 'imperialism', supporting or advocating for the Houthis just because they are shooting a few AsMs at US ships etc. is borderline insane.
You are talking about a group of folks not too different than the ISIS or African warlords who wouldn't think twice about kidnapping children to be soldiers, pillaging villages and mass raping young girls.
They have been.implicated in mass torture and other human rights abuse of thousands of people.
A Houthi militant wouldn't think twice about murdering you and raping your wife and daughter or hold you for ransom if you were to nonchalantly go visit north Yemen.
A large portion of everyday Yemenis hate them.
Sorry for my rant but some folks here are just ridiculous!
This 100%

You think America is bad? Look at Yemen, what kind place that is, and what Houthis have done to their own people.

People here cheering the attack on shipping lanes. Careful of what you wish for. What kind of world that would be.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Brigadier
Registered Member
I'm honestly quite aghast that a relatively educated and smart forum such as this have quite a number of Houthi supporters.
Presumably non of these supporters are Houthis themselves.
Let me repeat.. The Houthis are NOT saints.
Regardless of what you think of Israel or the evils of American 'imperialism', supporting or advocating for the Houthis just because they are shooting a few AsMs at US ships etc. is borderline insane.
You are talking about a group of folks not too different than the ISIS or African warlords who wouldn't think twice about kidnapping children to be soldiers, pillaging villages and mass raping young girls.
They have been.implicated in mass torture and other human rights abuse of thousands of people.
A Houthi militant wouldn't think twice about murdering you and raping your wife and daughter or hold you for ransom if you were to nonchalantly go visit north Yemen.
A large portion of everyday Yemenis hate them.
Sorry for my rant but some folks here are just ridiculous!
I am not a Houthi supporter nor am of Houthi background, and I am fairly pretty f..ng confident none of us are on this forum. Having said that the things you described that Houthis have been alleged to have committed if were brutally frank are no different than what the U.S. and it's "allies" have done since WWII.

What the Houthis and others like it lack is the total information dominance and therefore psychological and information warfare that U.S. have in spades. The Houthis and it's like minded groups don't have the power to shape perception of people around the world; they don't have the power to create and weave a narrative to establish a new reality on the ground. The center of gravity on this ongoing conflict is the public support and attention from the people that live in the global south, since people in the west don't really have any real power (despite their loud and obnoxious way of disruption ) to create any meaningful change from their respective government.

So whatever disgusting s...t and atrocities that have been committed wether intentionally or unintentionally can only surface through leaks ala the Pentagon papers, Eric Snowden, Manning, Julian Assange. The scariest thing about the U.S. is that it could literally white wash it's grotesque killings and crimes against humanity like it's colonial father the British and her colonial cousins of Europe, namely, France, Spain, Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands, Portugal...

I wouldn't be this indignant against America and her actions if you folks were not only arrogant but also flaming f..ng hypocrites ready to brandish and label my country of origin as committing genocide against its own ethnic minority of Uyghurs calling its legal actions against would be Islamist terrorists and separatists as being placed in concentration camps, hilariously labeling the reeducation to deradicalized affected individuals as genocide and cultural genocide.

So, I don't know why you're complaining and acting incredulous that some of the comments from the members here aren't too enamored with America and the country that's busy pulverizing it's enemies, damn the civilians, then complain when the survivors of these latest events become the next terrorists against them; and freedom fighters to the side that see themselves as victims and oppressed to what they view and see as their own land until 1949.
 
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enroger

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Registered Member
I'm honestly quite aghast that a relatively educated and smart forum such as this have quite a number of Houthi supporters.
Presumably non of these supporters are Houthis themselves.
Let me repeat.. The Houthis are NOT saints.
Regardless of what you think of Israel or the evils of American 'imperialism', supporting or advocating for the Houthis just because they are shooting a few AsMs at US ships etc. is borderline insane.
You are talking about a group of folks not too different than the ISIS or African warlords who wouldn't think twice about kidnapping children to be soldiers, pillaging villages and mass raping young girls.
They have been.implicated in mass torture and other human rights abuse of thousands of people.
A Houthi militant wouldn't think twice about murdering you and raping your wife and daughter or hold you for ransom if you were to nonchalantly go visit north Yemen.
A large portion of everyday Yemenis hate them.
Sorry for my rant but some folks here are just ridiculous!

I don't know for sure if Houthi has or has not done any of those atrocities you mentioned. I just want to ask do you also happens to believe in Uyghur genocide too? With the shear amount of western fabrication about anyone they don't like I'd be very cautious to any "news report" about this or that atrocities. I hope you're not as dumb as I think and do have solid proofs about everything you said, if so do provide them.

OTH we have overwhelming evidence about Israeli and American atrocities, what are your thoughts about them may I ask?
 

Serb

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Stop the crazy talk of China sending any weapons to Iran.

Hasn't your Westoid subpar intelligence media been clamoring in like 5000 articles that China already sends weapons to Russia, so why would they not send it to Iran too?

But, the truth is in the middle, they are not sending weapons directly to Russia to save the US some face. However, they still essentially exporting their manufacturing weight by sending components instead.

And they are, funny enough, doing some of that that through Iran presently, which then assembles and sends it to Russia. I see a 0% chance they wouldn't increase that for Iran itself if Iran gets attacked.


Why major Chinese banks have cut ties with their Russia counterparts.

Major banks that have dealings with the US cut some ties. But, a bunch of smaller, regional Chinese banks have helped increase trade between them to 240 billion at the end of 2023 and are on track to double their pre-war trade volume soon.

And that is all done 95% in local currencies nowadays, so you Westoids can't even know and claim who has cut ties with whom, and what the real volume traded is since you can't have insight into that as you could during the pre-war period when they used dollars and SWIFT system.


Me thinks no pre-empt on Iran or hezbo by Bibi is coming. No surprise since Bibi allowed Oct 7th to happened which allowed Bibi to degrade hamas so much that they are a shell of their former self and will remain that way for the foreseeable future. He doesn't have to defeat them. US didn't defeat ISIS or al-qaeda they are still around but nowhere near the strength and control of land both once had. I think Bibi will allow Iran and hezbollah to rain down missiles on Israel and some will get through likely killing Israelis and destroying buildings which will give Israel the excuse not just to hit back but hit back hard.

That bombing of houthi ports by Israel sure shut the houthis up... for now. I can see Israel targeting Iranian fuel depots, refineries and nuke plants sending Iran economy into a tizzy. As for hezbollah they will in end up like hamas, isis and al-qaeda and Lebanon will suffer greatly for it.

...or they could be jerking us around and pull another stunt like back in April and then say, we good, and everything goes back to the status quo.

It is funny how you already constructed such a nice cope for the future. Keep it up, this is some next-level coping. Not coping in the moment, but already having future copes ready.

It is good that you acknowledged that Israel really did corner itself big time this time, and they are powerless but to be struck the hardest so far in their history by Iran and their partners.

Of course, they are not going to do anything premetively, because that's also impossible mega cope. Instead, they are likely going to attack Lebanon directly next, after the upcoming humiliation, in hopes of drawing the US, to the war, to help them.

Then the US is going to get itself bogged down in another endless war against Hezbollah and Iraninan-backed groups in Iraq and Syria, since they are also outmatched by them, it will be many years with even more already scarce military capacity that the US would have to waste there, as they did in Ukraine, and make it even more likely to get defeated by China, in the Pacific, likelihood raised from 95% to 100%. Who knows, maybe even Maduro will do something in Venezuela too.

It is hard being such a falling empire, death by a thousand cuts, you cover one hole on your sinking ship, but another pops out right away, and you are powerless with your weakening capacity to stop anything and survive.

As for either Israel or the US starting any major attack against Iran directly (not assassinating some politicians to score useless points), even with their Westoid primitive mindset, they know it is a very, very bad idea.


You are talking about a group of folks not too different than the ISIS or African warlords who wouldn't think twice about kidnapping children to be soldiers, pillaging villages and mass raping young girls.
They have been.implicated in mass torture and other human rights abuse of thousands of people.
A Houthi militant wouldn't think twice about murdering you and raping your wife and daughter or hold you for ransom if you were to nonchalantly go visit north Yemen.
A large portion of everyday Yemenis hate them.
Sorry for my rant but some folks here are just ridiculous!


What you described is what the West has been doing, to the rest of the world, for 500 years, on a massively larger scale and also in terms of even worse types of actions.

And I think that it is a little strange how you had an "urge" to suddenly "point" out some of Houthis' alleged misconduct in the wake of the worst modern genocide that Israel is doing.

You are also a massive liar, about Houthis' support in Yemen. Here is the video from 3 days in the capital city of Saana which has a few million people (but hundreds of thousands of people constantly go out to express support like this, never seen in most other countries). Look at the sheer size of this crowd, I'm always amazed.

Also, former enemies in Yemen all support Houthis now, a record number of fighters are recruited, etc.

So, I could now give one arm and one leg and bet that Houthis have more support in Yemen than all of Western governments in their countries (and by a very considerable margin).


 
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coolgod

Major
Registered Member
I'm honestly quite aghast that a relatively educated and smart forum such as this have quite a number of Houthi supporters.
Presumably non of these supporters are Houthis themselves.
Let me repeat.. The Houthis are NOT saints.
Regardless of what you think of Israel or the evils of American 'imperialism', supporting or advocating for the Houthis just because they are shooting a few AsMs at US ships etc. is borderline insane.
American Imperialism in quotation marks lmao.
You are talking about a group of folks not too different than the ISIS or African warlords who wouldn't think twice about kidnapping children to be soldiers, pillaging villages and mass raping young girls.
Epstein says hi.
They have been.implicated in mass torture and other human rights abuse of thousands of people.
Guantanamo? CIA blacksites?
A Houthi militant wouldn't think twice about murdering you and raping your wife and daughter or hold you for ransom if you were to nonchalantly go visit north Yemen.
Sounds like certain US neighbourhoods.
A large portion of everyday Yemenis hate them.
A large portion of everyday Americans also hate the US government.
Sorry for my rant but some folks here are just ridiculous!

You know Operation Guardian Prosperity is going bad when Murican's are complaining about the moral of tiny third world countries. You badmouthing the houthis is just cope, loser talk. You should show us why America doesn't have free healthcare.
 
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