Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

enroger

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I dunno, to me this looks like Hezbollah goading Israel to attack them. Why would they do that ? Are they expecting the US to avoid getting involved ? Or are they prepared for that scenario ? Or is this part of some sort of a master plan by Iran and it's backers (RU and CN) to get the US stuck in a quagmire ? I just don't think Hezbollah leadership are ignorant or suicidal. I guess time will tell.

The realities of Russo-Ukraine war also allies to middle east, large scale armored thrust does not work anymore. Especially given the terrain of south Lebanon and god knows what kind of tunnel networks HBL dug over the years. This forces the IDF to fight in HBL's most favorable form of combat, small scale attritional warfare. HBL would love LOVE Israel to attack.

I doubt the US wants to get involved, ground intervention is utterly stupid for obvious reasons, air support is of limited utilities and Israel doesn't lack air power anyway. The US will let Israel take a crack at it, if they fold so be it
 

Franklin

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It surprises me that Israel can't sustain their military campaign without the Americans supplying them with ammunition. I thought that Israel as a major military power was self sufficient in ammunition production.
 

Topazchen

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It surprises me that Israel can't sustain their military campaign without the Americans supplying them with ammunition. I thought that Israel as a major military power was self sufficient in ammunition production.
The Libyan air campaign by NATO had the French and British air forces running out of ammunition after a week .

The war in Ukraine has shown that there are very few countries that can sustain a high intensity campaign..
 

Sinnavuuty

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Reportedly, the US has already given the green light along with full support for the invasion of Lebanon. If true, then we could see massive escalation in Mid to Late July at the earliest.




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The possibility of the IDF breaking with Hezbollah and going to war in southern Lebanon seems increasingly real.
 

JJD1803

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Reportedly, the US has already given the green light along with full support for the invasion of Lebanon. If true, then we could see massive escalation in Mid to Late July at the earliest.




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One thing I can say that Israel is likely banking on is that the US joins the war if they get battered by Hezbollah. The pressure from Congress will be immense on Biden.
 

_killuminati_

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It's astounding that the Israeli response to losing a war is to open a new front against a more potent opponent.
I'm not sure if Israel is losing the war if it's objective is ethnic cleansing. Egypt's refusal to open the border for the mass exodus is a remaining obstacle, although it has already permitted many to enter. Poor performance and depleting resources is the only problem. That's where US can step in - what Israel has been pushing for.
 

Proton

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Seems like the curse of the 8th decade is real. They aren’t going to make it by the end of this decade at this time point.
Also needs to control Jerusalem for another 12 years to beat the original European Crusader state. Might have to wait another millennia for a third attempt.

Just don't see the US allowing a war with Lebanon: not only is Hezbollah an order of magnitude better armed than Hamas; they also have potential for massive support from the entire Shia-axis and perhaps more. Such a war would outright remove any possibility of giving Ukraine a NATO-supplied air force; and it already seem to be pushed back until Israel winds down its war in Gaza. Munitions of all types would likely be given a Israeli priority.
 
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