Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

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aahyan said:
The CMs and BMs, how many and what types is more serious to look at. A number of them got through to their target which means Iran achieved its objective with Israel being ready for more than 72hrs. Just let that sink in, with all their defenses and allies protecting them in position and ready for more than 24hrs their airbase was still hit.
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Right. It should be noted that not only US and Israel, but also UK, France and Jordan were actively defending Israel (and Saudi Arabia providing intel) beyond Israeli territory and over Iraq, Jordan, and Syria. Despite all of this, countless missiles entered Israeli territory which means the combined allied effort beyond the border was negated. All that Western state of the art equipment, air force and SAM's couldn't protect Israel. The inherent weakness they've been portraying as invincible has been exposed.

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aahyan

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Iran is deploying Russian "Repellent" ("Репеллент") EW systems near strategically important nuclear and military-industrial facilities, as well as highly protected mountain locations of Shihab-3 medium-range missile systems, "Sadjil" and "Paveh" in anticipation of a possible massive missile and air strike by the Israeli and US Air Forces, which could follow both after the IRGC missile strike in response to the strike on the IRI consulate in Damascus, as well as preemptively following an emergency meeting of the Israeli military cabinet.

The Repellent system is capable of suppressing command and telemetry control channels and radio navigation modules of kamikaze UAVs and enemy tactical missiles in the frequency range from 200 to 6000 MHz within the radio horizon. The radio-telemetry reconnaissance module is capable of detecting radio-emitting modules of UAV command and telemetry channels at a distance of up to 30 kilometres and suppressing them at a distance of about 10 kilometres.

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plawolf

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It looks like to me that Iran has finally figured out BiBi’s game and is trying to escalate to de-escalate.

Israel under BiBi has been hitting Iran time and again with increasingly brazen and direct attacks because they are in trouble in Gaza. The IDF cannot take Gaza, but neither can they just call it quits without looking like they lost. Their one card left to play is to wag America into its war to do the fighting and dying for them. Hence repeatedly provoking Iran.

Iran is striking back in a measured way to signal to Israelis not in BiBi’s camp and to America that this is the last straw, as a desperate final attempt to get them to reign in BiBi before things goes past the point of no-return.

I think the main question now is whether America has the power and the balls to impeach BiBi, as that is the only off-ramp left. The Iranian attack also gives BiBi’s domestic enemies an opportunity to impeach him on the grounds of the catastrophic strategic loss Israel has just suffered with the utter destruction of its deterrence capabilities.

Failure to remove BiBi means America will inevitably be dragged into a direct Israeli-Iranian war as Israel under BiBi will absolutely retaliate and escalate since this is what they have wanted from the beginning.
 
aahyan

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_killuminati_ said:
Right. It should be noted that not only US and Israel, but also UK, France and Jordan were actively defending Israel (and Saudi Arabia providing intel) beyond Israeli territory and over Iraq, Jordan, and Syria. Despite all of this, countless missiles entered Israeli territory which means the combined allied effort beyond the border was negated. All that Western state of the art equipment, air force and SAM's couldn't protect Israel. The inherent weakness they've been portraying as invincible has been exposed.
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Following are imperative outcomes of that strike:

1) so called missile shield is in-affective against saturated fast incoming ballistic missiles. Videos are clearly showing Iran hit Israeli air bases (most guarded assets in Israel) with impunity. And that the message that should send shiver down their spine among Israeli and their backers.

2) Israel hit Iranian embassy, albeit Iran territory under international law but in reality not actual Iranian soil. Iran in return hit Israeli soil, proper!! That's a DOMINANCE on escalation ladder, and if Israel do not respond in kind, will have to live under the shadows of this inferiority complex just like India did after swift retort.
 
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plawolf said:
It looks like to me that Iran has finally figured out BiBi’s game and is trying to escalate to de-escalate.

Israel under BiBi has been hitting Iran time and again with increasingly brazen and direct attacks because they are in trouble in Gaza. The IDF cannot take Gaza, but neither can they just call it quits without looking like they lost. Their one card left to play is to wag America into its war to do the fighting and dying for them. Hence repeatedly provoking Iran.

Iran is striking back in a measured way to signal to Israelis not in BiBi’s camp and to America that this is the last straw, as a desperate final attempt to get them to reign in BiBi before things goes past the point of no-return.

I think the main question now is whether America has the power and the balls to impeach BiBi, as that is the only off-ramp left. The Iranian attack also gives BiBi’s domestic enemies an opportunity to impeach him on the grounds of the catastrophic strategic loss Israel has just suffered with the utter destruction of its deterrence capabilities.

Failure to remove BiBi means America will inevitably be dragged into a direct Israeli-Iranian war as Israel under BiBi will absolutely retaliate and escalate since this is what they have wanted from the beginning.
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Exactly. And there is the element of US domestic politics. If Biden goes to war on behalf of Israel, Democrats pretty much loose the elections.
 
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plawolf said:
I think the main question now is whether America has the power and the balls to impeach BiBi, as that is the only off-ramp left. The Iranian attack also gives BiBi’s domestic enemies an opportunity to impeach him on the grounds of the catastrophic strategic loss Israel has just suffered with the utter destruction of its deterrence capabilities.
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Netanyahu is very unpopular in Israel since last year because of internal political dilemmas, the judicial issue and corruption, but the Israeli civilians are overwhelmingly in support of the invasion of Gaza, the genocide, and a regional war. That is one thing the Israeli populace gives credit for to Netanyahu.
 
aahyan

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plawolf said:
It looks like to me that Iran has finally figured out BiBi’s game and is trying to escalate to de-escalate.

Israel under BiBi has been hitting Iran time and again with increasingly brazen and direct attacks because they are in trouble in Gaza. The IDF cannot take Gaza, but neither can they just call it quits without looking like they lost. Their one card left to play is to wag America into its war to do the fighting and dying for them. Hence repeatedly provoking Iran.

Iran is striking back in a measured way to signal to Israelis not in BiBi’s camp and to America that this is the last straw, as a desperate final attempt to get them to reign in BiBi before things goes past the point of no-return.

I think the main question now is whether America has the power and the balls to impeach BiBi, as that is the only off-ramp left. The Iranian attack also gives BiBi’s domestic enemies an opportunity to impeach him on the grounds of the catastrophic strategic loss Israel has just suffered with the utter destruction of its deterrence capabilities.

Failure to remove BiBi means America will inevitably be dragged into a direct Israeli-Iranian war as Israel under BiBi will absolutely retaliate and escalate since this is what they have wanted from the beginning.
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And a big part of the blame also goes to the Americans and Western Europeans for not telling Netanyahu "Either you stop the genocide in Gaza or we stop helping you diplomatically, militarily and impose economic sanctions on Israel".
 
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Bibi pushed his luck with the attack on Iranian consulate and this Tehran response is such a huge strategic loss for Israel .In previous Israeli provocations, there was always an unspoken understanding that an attack or response on Israeli soil was off-limits and this taboo was broken last night.

Going forward, Israeli attacks against Iran in Syria or Iraq will be met with retaliatory attacks on Israeli soil by Iran. At times, you need to know when to stop and Bibi has broken the myth of Israeli invincibility.
 
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