Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

eprash said:

What are the chances this is another 9/11? Netanyahu was in a predicament before this conflict and now has a convenient excuse to ban protests and rally support, With all their intel its almost unbelievable they couldn't see it coming change

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You see some post on Twitter claiming hamas used Huawei or chinese cyber sphere to exchange information. I'm sure CIA, NSA can't penetrate deep enough to track chinese cyber sphere data streams. Especially now that China has the ability to create their own compute and storage solution and don't have to worry about US secret instructions backed into the hardware level.

I think that is why the west and by extension Israeli intelligence was blind to this, it's not the first time the west was caught with their pants down the same happened with the Chinese brokered path to peace between the Saudis and Iranian.

If they really thought about creating an Israeli 911 they are beyond saving its not 2000s anymore the west's ability to reign in the chaos has been diminished to a state they can't really control the chaos or the non western worlds narrative.

BREAKING: Terror attack against Israel tourists in Alexandria, Egypt. An Egyptian police officer used his gun to start firing on a bus of Israeli tourists. At least two Israeli were killed, many more are wounded..

"Expanding into the West Bank — Israeli checkpoint near Jenin has been set on fire." Doesn't look like deescalation anytime soon.

BlackWindMnt said:

You see some post on Twitter claiming hamas used Huawei or chinese cyber sphere to exchange information. I'm sure CIA, NSA can't penetrate deep enough to track chinese cyber sphere data streams. Especially now that China has the ability to create their own compute and storage solution and don't have to worry about US secret instructions backed into the hardware level.

I think that is why the west and by extension Israeli intelligence was blind to this, it's not the first time the west was caught with their pants down the same happened with the Chinese brokered path to peace between the Saudis and Iranian.

If they really thought about creating an Israeli 911 they are beyond saving its not 2000s anymore the west's ability to reign in the chaos has been diminished to a state they can't really control the chaos or the non western worlds narrative.

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Wait what do you mean create another 9/11?

There's people here who honestly believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy???? Really?!?

OTCDebunker said:

Wait what do you mean create another 9/11?

There's people here who honestly believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy???? Really?!?

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I don't care if it was a conspiracy or not the result was it rallied the US citizens behind a new crusade.

This event might be used to rally the Israelis behind Israeli leadership temporary glue the factions together. Like 911 did with Americans.

BlackWindMnt said:

I don't care if it was a conspiracy or not the result was it rallied the US citizens behind a new crusade.

This event might be used to rally the Israelis behind Israeli leadership temporary glue the factions together. Like 911 did with Americans.

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The thing you're referring to is known as the "Rally around the leader effect"...and it's about as predictable as saying the sun rises in the east and sets in the west...

So if that was your only point then. Well, ya...obviously.

It's basic human psychology. Whenever a group of humans, any group of humans really perceives an attack of some kind from an outside group they tend to suddenly work together in fighting the new mutual enemy.

This is to be expected. In fact, it would be quite weird if this didn't happen.

And just so we set the record straight 9/11 being any sort of conspiracy theory is just straight retardation.

Yes yes we know that the murican government is evil as fuck and would totally do something like 9/11.

They don't NEED to do 9/11...because it's an honest to God miracle that somebody hadn't done a 9/11 at least 20 years before the actual 9/11.

They've been pissing the fuck off the Arabs and the Muslims since Israel's founding. So 9/11 was bound to happen sooner or later.

Just like how this current war was bound to happen sooner or later.

It's called people being people, and part of being human is the fact that if you abuse and torment other people long enough they eventually strike back.

Oh and one more thing for the record.

I'm for sure on the side of the Palestinians.

The hypocrisy of Israel is probably the only country I consider to be even worse than murica. They use ancient religious mumbo-jumbo fake history to justify why it's ok to commit atrocities against people who were just happy to mind their own business, but do you see them supporting native American or Australian aboriginal claims to retake their land? No of course not! Why? Because they and only they are special and entitled to take whatever lands as their own and only they are cool enough to be able to use ancient pseudo history to justify their greed and selfishness.

Sometime ago new Chinese antipiracy task force sailed to Gulf of aden. Have it already arrived? It would be helpful for having it for an eventual evacuation of civilians from Israel.

Al-Qassam brigades have announced that they have successfully conducted the rotation of their forces.

The units that initiated the operation have safely returned to Gaza, while new divisions continue the operation.

@DDGeopolitics

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⚡️IDF Col. Roy Levy liquidated by the Palestinian resistance during battles yesterday


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Israeli Tasalim military base in chaos after dozens of resistance infantry and paratroopers stormed it.

Dead and wounded Israeli soldiers are being transported to Soroka Hospital.


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❗️ — Israeli Channel 12: At least 500 Israelis have been killed and 2000 wounded since the fighting began yesterday


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IDF spokesman Richard Hecht said that within the next 12 hours, the country is going to launch a military operation that will put an end to the Gaza enclave, according to him. The IDF is going to establish control over the entire region.

@Slavyangrad

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Fighting is reported to have begun in the area of the West Bank city of Jenin. The video shows a captured Israeli checkpoint.

HighGround said:

The only way for Netanyahu to save face, is to emerge victorious.

If he wants to look victorious, he will need to spill a lot of blood. Which means this war has great potential to involve more and more factions. I would not be surprised to see Hezbollah attack regardless of whether IDF enters Gaza or not.

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I don't think face can be saved. Even if Hamas is completely obliterated the amount of face lost during the initial strike is staggering. It's not so much a war as a prison break, and the warden has done a very poor job.

plawolf said:

There won’t be much ‘precision’ about Israel’s razing of Gaza. If there is going to be any worthy lessons from the upcoming calamity, it will be a perfect example of what NOT to do.

All the death and destruction from the last 24h are minor and ultimately insignificant on the grand scheme of things, but the truly devastating and lasting damage Hamas and Gaza has, and will deal to Israel is in firstly shattering their hard won and carefully maintained aura of invincibility; and secondly in their humiliation, rage, grief and desperation to restore their reputation, the Israelis will go way too far in Gaza and alienate the western world while enraging the Arabs and Muslims.

That will likely result in a long and bloody asymmetrical war that Israel will not be able to win decisively.

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We haven't reached that phase of the conflict yet. So far Israel is busy calling up reservist and is getting it's equipment and supplies in gear while the airforce is conducting air strikes against targets of opportunities. Once they decide to put boots on the ground to occupy Gaza we should see brutal steet to street fighting which was last attempted in 2006, it remains to be seen whether their newer equipment will make much of a difference.