Israel bombed the entrance to the Al-Shifa Hospital
And 4 UN shelters
And 4 UN shelters
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Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)
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That is mostly not true in human history.
Mass killing happens all the time, but before 1800s, mass killing such as wiping out a city was only employed as a punishment for fierce resistance and warning to other people to lay down arms. It was not aimed at wiping out a whole population (nation/race). Even during the most brutal conquest by Chengis Khan, Bagdad was wiped but the region's population remained local not replaced by Mongols.
Genocide is institutional or delibrate acts of killing or expulsion of local population from their home, making space for colonizers. It is a wiping-out of the whole poupulation regardless rebellion or obedience.
Only in north America in 1800s and Europe 1930-40s did that kind of wiping-out happened. Israel's refusal of two state solution and squeezing Palestinian territory (alotted by UN partition) is in the same league of genocide.
Trying to expand Genocide to include all historical attrocities is just one way for the colonizers and nazi sympathizers to whitewash their deed by saying "I am not the only one, everyone did it or will do it given the chance."
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Seriously have you guys ever seen a country developed JUST BECAUSE OF AID/DONATIONS?
If that was the case then many other countries(Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Ethiopia, Iraq etc etc ) would be developed today, even all African countries will be very developed today. Lol
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Did I said Israel developed solely on donation? It was just a question on donation amount.
You are putting words into OP's mouth. He did not say "JUST BECAUSE OF".
You cannot deny that Israel have received a lot of aid and support from the US government. For one, the US has been using its military might and political power to guarantee the survival of Israel. While it's not called donation, it's huge help for Israel given its poor geopolitical situation. Without this guarantee, Israel would have to spend even more in defense and that would have cut spending in economic and social development.
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Of all the people who did actually say this, you single out the one guy who didn't?
Main points of what Hassan Nasrallah said:-
"if Israel attempts to launch a preemptive attack against Lebanon then that would be the biggest mistake that Israel could ever do".
"This is not like the previous battles, this is a decisive and historic and fatefull battle, what is after it is not like what is before it. And all have to take responsibility, when we talk about responsibility we have to look at what our objectives are, the first objective is to stop the aggression against Gaza. And the second objective is for gaza to win and for Hamas specificaly to win".
"The reasons for the first objective are humane and moral and religous".
"The reasons for the second objective is in the benefit of all, it is for sure in the benifit of Palestine. Some people say if Gaza wins then Iran wins and the muslim brotherhood wins in the region, this is misleading, a win for Gaza is a win for the west bank, a win for the Al Aqsa, a win for Gaza serves the national interests of Egypt and Jordan and Syria and Lebanon".
"What does it mean if Israel wins in Gaza, what does it mean if The resistance losses in Gaza, what will be the consequences for the countries in the region if Israel wins especially for Lebanon!".
"Whether we escalate or not on southern lebanon depends on two factors, the situation in Gaza and Israeli actions towards lebanon and here again I would warn Israel not target Lebanese civilians or else we will act on the principle of 'a civilian for a civilian' ".
"I say with all honesty and ambiguity.. All scenarios and options regarding the Lebanese front are open and on the table and we could resort to them at any time".
"We must be ready for all possible and upcoming scenarios".
"I say to the americans.. threatening us and threatening the resistance is useless, we recieved messages that told us 'if you continue your operations we will bomb you and even bomb Iran' . I say to america.. You fleets that you are threatening us with, we have already prepared the weapons to take them on".
"I say to the Americans, if you don't want this to escalate to a regional war then you have to stop your aggression against Gaza. If this escalates to a regional war, the biggest victim and the biggest loser in this conflict would be the US navy and US soldiers".
"I say to our people in Gaza to our people in the west bank and in all of Palestine...god willing our collective resilience and our sacrafice will result in an assured victory".
"if Israel attempts to launch a preemptive attack against Lebanon then that would be the biggest mistake that Israel could ever do".
"This is not like the previous battles, this is a decisive and historic and fatefull battle, what is after it is not like what is before it. And all have to take responsibility, when we talk about responsibility we have to look at what our objectives are, the first objective is to stop the aggression against Gaza. And the second objective is for gaza to win and for Hamas specificaly to win".
"The reasons for the first objective are humane and moral and religous".
"The reasons for the second objective is in the benefit of all, it is for sure in the benifit of Palestine. Some people say if Gaza wins then Iran wins and the muslim brotherhood wins in the region, this is misleading, a win for Gaza is a win for the west bank, a win for the Al Aqsa, a win for Gaza serves the national interests of Egypt and Jordan and Syria and Lebanon".
"What does it mean if Israel wins in Gaza, what does it mean if The resistance losses in Gaza, what will be the consequences for the countries in the region if Israel wins especially for Lebanon!".
"Whether we escalate or not on southern lebanon depends on two factors, the situation in Gaza and Israeli actions towards lebanon and here again I would warn Israel not target Lebanese civilians or else we will act on the principle of 'a civilian for a civilian' ".
"I say with all honesty and ambiguity.. All scenarios and options regarding the Lebanese front are open and on the table and we could resort to them at any time".
"We must be ready for all possible and upcoming scenarios".
"I say to the americans.. threatening us and threatening the resistance is useless, we recieved messages that told us 'if you continue your operations we will bomb you and even bomb Iran' . I say to america.. You fleets that you are threatening us with, we have already prepared the weapons to take them on".
"I say to the Americans, if you don't want this to escalate to a regional war then you have to stop your aggression against Gaza. If this escalates to a regional war, the biggest victim and the biggest loser in this conflict would be the US navy and US soldiers".
"I say to our people in Gaza to our people in the west bank and in all of Palestine...god willing our collective resilience and our sacrafice will result in an assured victory".
Everyone will do it if given the chance. You think we have evolved beyond that? It’s still about grabbing more land, resources, wealth.
If one country is so significantly weaker than another, the encounter of the two usually ends in disaster for the weaker party. Their peoples killed, their cultures erased (genocide happens in more than one form).
How much atrocities happen depends on the degree of power disparity between the two.
In the case of Native Americans vs. the Europeans, you had one group living in huts fighting with ax and arrows and the other with guns and cannons. And it’s not just the Europeans. Even before the 1800, all major countries had better technology than the Native Americans.
I don't know if you realise, but you are basically advocating for fascism.
I Do Not. You keep trying to say I do, lol. Cause explaining historical events that lead to genocide or fascism is not the same thing as supporting them. You realize the difference