ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

Broccoli

Senior Member
Pesmergha fighters in Iraq having a chat with IS fighters.
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broadsword

Brigadier
Doesn't it get awfully hot warning all that black under the desert sun?


Black is opaque and stops light from getting to the skin. There is much less thermal radiation compared with white fabric but more convection from the heat absorbed in the black fabric. Black still outperforms white in the desert.

This research explains it better:
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delft

Brigadier
Turkey allows the training of moderate terrorists, according to Susan Rice.
From the BBC website:
13 October 2014 Last updated at 10:46 GMT

Turkey 'allows Syria rebel training'

Turkey has agreed to allow moderate Syrian rebels to be trained on its soil, the US says, in its bid to combat Islamic State in Syria and Iraq.

US National Security Adviser Susan Rice, who announced the development, said she welcomed the new agreement.

It has not yet been confirmed by Turkey, which has so far refused to send troops into Syria or Iraq.

Turkish MPs recently passed a motion allowing foreign forces to use its bases for activities in Syria and Iraq.

The US-led coalition is carrying out air strikes against Islamic State militants, who have seized large parts of Iraq and Syria.

Speaking to US broadcaster NBC on Sunday, Ms Rice said Turkey had agreed to let the US use Turkish bases and territory "to train moderate Syrian opposition forces".

"That's the new commitment, and one that we very much welcome," she added.

It is likely the large US military base at Incirlik in southern Turkey will be used, says the BBC's Mark Lowen in Ankara.

A US military team is travelling to Ankara this week to discuss the training programme and what kind of missions could be flown from Turkish bases.

The training of Syria's moderate opposition is part of US President Barack Obama's anti-IS strategy announced last month.

In recent days, IS fighters have advanced against the Syrian town of Kobane, which has a border crossing point with Turkey.

The militants, who control some areas of Kobane, have been subjecting the rest of the town to a heavy bombardment but are continuing to meet resistance from Kurdish forces there.

Neither side has been able to gain significant ground, despite the US-led coalition carrying out air strikes in support of the Kurds.

Sources inside Kobane told the BBC the coalition launched seven air strikes on IS positions to the east and south-west of the town overnight.

They added that fierce clashes were continuing on Monday morning near aid supplies warehouses at the south-west entrance to the town, and that IS detonated a car bomb to the east.

The militants were pushed back as they tried to advance towards a border crossing.

Turkey has ranged its military forces on the border but has so far ruled out any ground operation on its own and has refused to allow Kurds in Turkey to cross the border to fight.

Turkey has been reluctant to get involved militarily, partly because it is concerned about arming the Kurdish forces fighting IS militants. Turkey fought a long civil war with its Kurdish minority.

Since the IS offensive against Kobane began in mid-September, some 500 people have been killed and up to 200,000 have fled across the border into Turkey.

IS says it aims to establish a "caliphate", a state ruled by a single political and religious leader according to Islamic law, or Sharia.

It has become known for brutal tactics, including mass killings, abductions of members of religious and ethnic minorities, and the beheadings of soldiers and journalists.
But not if they are Kurds, of course.
 

thunderchief

Senior Member
Turkey denies reaching accord with U.S. on use of air base against Islamic State

Turkey denied Monday that it has reached a new agreement to allow the United States to use the Incirlik Air Base in southern Turkey in the fight against the Islamic State militant group, contradicting Obama administration officials.

Turkish officials said talks on the subject are continuing, news agencies reported from Ankara, the Turkish capital.

Turkey and the United States have reached an accord on the training of Syrian rebels, Reuters news agency reported, citing officials in the Turkish prime minister’s office, but it was not immediately clear who would train the rebels or where.

Obama administration officials said Sunday that Turkey had agreed to allow a U.S.-led coalition to use Turkish military bases for the fight against the Islamic State, a radical Islamist armed group also known as ISIS or ISIL, and to use Turkish territory as part of a training program for moderate Syrian opposition fighters.

“That’s a new commitment and one that we very much welcome,” Susan E. Rice, President Obama’s national security adviser, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Defense officials said that they expect clearance to use Incirlik Air Base, a U.S.-built facility about 35 miles inland from the eastern edge of the Mediterranean Sea, near Turkey’s border with Syria, for airstrikes against the Islamist militants. Incirlik is a joint facility where both the Turkish and U.S. air forces operate.....

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Miragedriver

Brigadier
How do they define "moderate terrorists"? Is there such a thing as moderate terrorism?

Mmmmmm……..Sounds like governmental double speak to me.

What is that old saying: “One man’s freedom fighter is another’s terrorist”. Would this fall under terrorist that are expedient political allies? :confused:


Time to check my bottling
 

delft

Brigadier
How do they define "moderate terrorists"? Is there such a thing as moderate terrorism?
I don't. US politicians are talking about moderate rebels. "Rebels" sponsored by foreign governments are more properly called terrorists.
 
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aksha

Captain
these are the the areas that isis says that they will form their caliphate,they plant to defeat the armies of turkey,israel,iran,india,pakistanand saudi arabia.wonderful optimists are'nt they?
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thunderchief

Senior Member
I don't. US politicians are talking about moderate rebels. "Rebels" sponsored by foreign governments are more properly called terrorists.

Here are some of the "moderate" rebels :D

[video=youtube;csm7n5TpPbg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csm7n5TpPbg[/video]
 
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