ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

Equation

Lieutenant General
I think it is very probable that SF teams are already on the ground in both Syria and Iraq, not the least to direct/guide airstrikes. What i worry about though is an encounter between those teams and Syrian forces. Would they shake hands and go their own ways? If yes, great but if not, all hell breaks loose.
It is also apparent that the Syrian air defense (those S300s if really delivered by Russia) is not interfering with airstrikes (after all not everyone has a Raptor) because it is in Assad's interest; for now...They may be intentionally 'shut down' under advice from Russia. Given the current armada involved the Syrians have no option. The administration can claim anything it wants but there must be some degree of 'coordination' via Russia.

That depends on the rules of engagement between the SF guys if they do encounter Assad Syrian Army troops. I figure they would do their utmost best to avoid and be seen by the Syrian troops. They would rely on intelligence on the ground to determine the actions appropriate for it.
 

Broccoli

Senior Member
I think it is very probable that SF teams are already on the ground in both Syria and Iraq, not the least to direct/guide airstrikes. What i worry about though is an encounter between those teams and Syrian forces. Would they shake hands and go their own ways? If yes, great but if not, all hell breaks loose.
It is also apparent that the Syrian air defense (those S300s if really delivered by Russia) is not interfering with airstrikes (after all not everyone has a Raptor) because it is in Assad's interest; for now...They may be intentionally 'shut down' under advice from Russia. Given the current armada involved the Syrians have no option. The administration can claim anything it wants but there must be some degree of 'coordination' via Russia.

Syria S-300 systems aren't operational and even if they were Assad knows that if they fired even one missile at coalition aircraft those S-300's and large portion of regime buildings would be dust soon enough. There is no reason to have any coordination with Assad.

Assad cannot even stop Israelis from bombing Hezbollah convoys inside Syria and Pantsir systems were not useful against Israeli airstrike back in 2007 when they destroyed Syrian nuclear program.
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President Obama is doing a good job dealing with IS, a great job specifically with getting the Saudis and other current/ex-Sunni-extremist-supporting countries to publicly contribute forces and carry out strikes against it. It takes a true patriot and one with real grit to pursue his stated strategy of maintaining US strategic advantage at minimal cost by maintaining regional balances during domestically trying times, especially when changing conditions require major tweaks to longstanding US strategies for them to continue serving US interests rather than morph into serving someone else's.
 

broadsword

Brigadier
As for the cost of the current war in Iraq and Syria. We don't know for sure how much it costs because the US government is refusing to answer questions about the costs of this new war. There was talk that the war cost about 7,5 million dollars a day. But that was before the current escalation. It seems that Obama is escalating this war by a thousand slices. At the middle of june there were 300 advisors send to Baghdad and now more than 3 months later they are bombing Syria. We know that they are dipping in to the 85 billion dollars overseas contingency funds. The US government hasn't ask for any new money from congress except for funds to train and arm the new 5000 man strong moderate army that is going to be trained in Saudi Arabia. You can be sure that countries in the coalition like Qatar, UAE, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia will also be helping to pay part of the costs.

I don't know how accurate this source is but there is a war cost counter online that tracks all the war costs and put them into a clock. See link below

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This maybe off topic but they also have a homeland security cost counter if your are interested.

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According to CNN Money...........U.S. has already spent nearly $1 billion fighting ISIS.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
The first wave of U.S. military attacks against ISIS has cost nearly $1 billion, according to a military think tank.

And costs could rise to as much as $1.8 billion a month if the U.S. military presence grows to 25,000 ground troops, as some have suggested, said the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment (CSBA).

U.S. air strikes started in Iraq last month and expanded to Syria last week.

So far U.S. military efforts have mostly been limited to air strikes. There are also 1,600 U.S. troops in Iraq serving in advise-and-assist roles and staffing the joint operation centers. However, they aren't conducting combat operations against ISIS.

President Obama said he has no plans for U.S. ground troops to engage in combat.

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The Center said that even if operations don't escalate, it will cost between $200 million and $320 million a month to maintain the current level of airstrikes and support troops. That works out to as much as $4 billion a year.

A Pentagon spokesman told CNN last week that military operations are likely to continue at their current level "for a matter of years.
 

delft

Brigadier
President Obama is doing a good job dealing with IS, a great job specifically with getting the Saudis and other current/ex-Sunni-extremist-supporting countries to publicly contribute forces and carry out strikes against it. It takes a true patriot and one with real grit to pursue his stated strategy of maintaining US strategic advantage at minimal cost by maintaining regional balances during domestically trying times, especially when changing conditions require major tweaks to longstanding US strategies for them to continue serving US interests rather than morph into serving someone else's.
Also probably at slight costs to IS.
 

delft

Brigadier
The website of my favorite radio station has an item on the Turkish president Erdogan saying that his government will tomorrow ask his parliament for permission to send its armed forces over the borders of Iraq and Syria against IS but the main enemy is the government of Syria. Will Turkey now be part of the US led coalition? That is not yet clear, according to this article.
 

thunderchief

Senior Member
Unconfirmed reports on Twitter that ISIS forces entered city of Ramadi in Anbar province, also that US jets mistakenly struck Iraqi convoy near that city. Overall, bad news, hope that they aren't true .
 

delft

Brigadier
I just heard the BBC Radio 4 news say that a former Gitmo inmate who went to Syria to help arm opponents of the government, in coordination with a UK secret service, was arrested when he came back for helping terrorists ( that seems to me to be just what he did ) and spent months in jail, has now be left out and all prosecution against him has now ended.
 

SouthernSky

Junior Member
The Australian Government gives the green light to the RAAF to commence air strikes against ISIS targets in Iraq. Non combat flight operations had already begun earlier in the week.

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