TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
I knew you would say that. most of the recognition came before the Syrian conflict, and actions like the 2012 Burgas bus bombing doesn't help there case.
ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)
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solarz
Brigadier
I heard on the radio that the US informed Russia in advance of the strike.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
IT's called deconfliction. The US sent a message to Russia as a warning of course Russia likely then called the Syrians about it.
solarz
Brigadier
I have to say, Trump played this a lot smarter than Obama. He orders an attack that does no consequential damage, and Russia pretends to be outraged. Trump gains credit with his domestic audience while keeping foreign relations intact and keeping out of the Syria mess.
Of course, a key part of this requires Russia to play along, which is something Obama would never have been able to pull off, given the bad personal relationship between him and Putin.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
you know what these strikes were? They were the Obama red line strikes.
After the first use of Chemical weapons in Syria Obama had painted his "Red Line" the Syrians had crossed it and Obama started talking about strikes.
Then he went to Congress to give him an attaboy, and pass the buck. When they were like why are you bothering us? Obama backs down Putin smells blood in the water and moves into white wash for Assad.
Years go by Trump comes in the same thing happens and Trump says fire the missiles. knowing full well it was limited in scope. They give Russia a call an hour ahead knowing Putin was going to warn Assad.
Now the question is where do we go from here. Russia apparently has pulled out of the Deconflicting agreement and has ships ( at least one missile Frigate) seemingly on a intercept course to the US ships that launched the missiles.
Assad's regime is threatened, the US is back to wanting him out and Trump has shown himself a shark. Does the Great white of Russia try and take the Great Trump of the US?
After the first use of Chemical weapons in Syria Obama had painted his "Red Line" the Syrians had crossed it and Obama started talking about strikes.
Then he went to Congress to give him an attaboy, and pass the buck. When they were like why are you bothering us? Obama backs down Putin smells blood in the water and moves into white wash for Assad.
Years go by Trump comes in the same thing happens and Trump says fire the missiles. knowing full well it was limited in scope. They give Russia a call an hour ahead knowing Putin was going to warn Assad.
Now the question is where do we go from here. Russia apparently has pulled out of the Deconflicting agreement and has ships ( at least one missile Frigate) seemingly on a intercept course to the US ships that launched the missiles.
Assad's regime is threatened, the US is back to wanting him out and Trump has shown himself a shark. Does the Great white of Russia try and take the Great Trump of the US?
Equation
Lieutenant General
The next move to reach some kind of concession between Assad government and the rebel forces. One step at a time.
solarz
Brigadier
I would have to disagree.
Obama's red line, as was understood at the time, was not limited to a few cruise missiles. Those were the days shortly after the Libyan intervention, and aerial strikes were what's on everybody's minds. Obviously, Obama did not go there.
Trumps missile strike can hardly compare to the scope of an aerial campaign. I suspect that the Russian intercept is intended to remind Trump that the US does not have carte-blanche to launch missile strikes whenever they like.
I predict things will remain as they are, and in a few weeks the media will have completely forgotten about this and Trump will go back to focusing on domestic issues.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Quote President Barack Obama
September 10, 2013
Remarks by the President in Address to the Nation on Syria
9:01 P.M. EDT
No Air prolonged Air Campaign, a targeted, limited strike.
And what did Trump just launch? 50 cruse missiles against a single air base in a targeted limited strike.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Ok this is just a rumor but a Syrian co-worker of mine had just got some words that the Assad government were able to knock out or shot down at least 25 of the 59 tomahawk cruise missiles. NOW, I don't have nor my colleague have any evidence on it of course. After all it wasn't a complete surprise attack given that Trump had gave Putin some time and warning about it before the strike occur. My bottom line is just wait and see for further water down news from both sides.