Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.

Papppi

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Likely those optics are from existing stock (i.e. older models than what's available in market from the same brand), might as well burn through them instead of collecting dust in the warehouse.
Makes sense. Both models were released over a decade ago during which the Chinese domestic optics sector was still in its initial stages of development. I guess those were probably the best options for the mid-2010s PLA to choose from back then, though I don't remember seeing them in older pictures of the PLA (mostly used Trijicons and EOTechs by memory).
 

by78

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I don't recall seeing this particular model of plate carriers before. The soldiers are paratroopers of the PLAAF Airborne.

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AZaz09dude

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Kestrel IPC, relatively new PC seen in use with various PLA/PAP TZ units over the past year. Notably in the big August military wide shooting competition.
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Feedback was mixed, some flaws with the cummerbund design and other details, and an improved variant has already appeared.
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The one seen in use by airborne seems to be a non-lasercut version of the older variant.
 
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polati

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I don't understand the reasoning behind regressing in infantry combat equipment.. The only reason this system should stop being fielded is if a better system is about to be fielded.
 

Biscuits

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I don't understand the reasoning behind regressing in infantry combat equipment.. The only reason this system should stop being fielded is if a better system is about to be fielded.
It's just changing constantly I guess because of constant update feeds from Russia about what matters or not.

There's plenty of optimisation research being done on soldiers individual kit. Every bit you add is taking the soldier's energy/attention in some way, so you want to ensure what you're adding is as high usefulness as possible. This isn't the same as in logistics or salvo calculations where bigger number = better.
 

polati

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It's just changing constantly I guess because of constant update feeds from Russia about what matters or not.

There's plenty of optimisation research being done on soldiers individual kit. Every bit you add is taking the soldier's energy/attention in some way, so you want to ensure what you're adding is as high usefulness as possible. This isn't the same as in logistics or salvo calculations where bigger number = better.
Then in that case they wouldn't downgrade to the old helmet. They'd add: Thermal fusion night vision (A must have in the modern battlefield), Proper comms, like radios, earpro, proper optics on every weapon, and networked communication. Those are the most valuable pieces of infantry equipment currently, and to get rid of these capabilities for 2kg less weight and a worse helmet is just illogical.

Consensus from the Ukraine war is that night vision AND thermal is vital to survival.

I don't see why the new helmet shouldn't be procured, it allows for these capabilities, offers better protection at no heavier weight. The only reason I can think of, is that there is a new infantry equipment program and the current one isn't good enough, that the nvg mount wasn't properly designed, so they stopped procurement and are waiting for a better helmet from the next program. In all other cases, it just doesn't make sense to continue to procure obsolete equipment.
 
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