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supersnoop

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At least have some targets. If you don’t have vehicles or models at least paint a big white bullseye on the mountain. Live firing against random rocks only proof that you can hit the broad side of a mountain. How are you even supposed to assess the accuracy of your shots?
They should have Forward Observation officer with coordinates marking the impacts.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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The recently retired Indian Army Chief, General Navarane, has been sharing his expertise and opinions on the recent geopolitical tensions and the hypothetical military conflicts that India may face in the future. Specifically, he addresses potential threats from Pakistan and China.

In the video, General Navarane discusses the persistent theme and concern of a two-front war. He explores strategies for avoiding such a scenario and, if it proves unavoidable, tactics for emerging victorious. This is the same officer who raised eyebrows in China following his visit to Taiwan. Participating in military discussions on the island, the general's presence was perceived by both the Chinese public and government as a provocative and insensitive act.

Unfortunately, Navarane's presentation style is dry and sleep-inducing. In my opinion, his ideas lean heavily towards fantastical scenarios, lacking a realistic appraisal of the capabilities of his country's adversaries, especially China. He overestimates India’s industrial capacity, disregarding China's significant advantage in this area.

General Navarane suggests that India should emulate Israel’s preemptive strike during the 1967 war. This would involve crippling one opponent’s air force to concentrate all of India’s industrial and human resources against China. He draws a parallel between the Battle of Pusan and a potential war with China and Pakistan, citing India's successful defense and assistance in the liberation of Bangladesh as a blueprint for victory in hypothetical conflicts.

I hope that General Navarane’s presentation is more a play to the gallery, intended to stir the passions of an increasingly hyper-nationalistic Indian audience, rather than a serious strategic proposal. His emphasis on India’s military prowess could be more about boosting national pride than offering a substantive analysis of the geopolitical landscape.

I hope that members on this forum that are far more knowledgeable on this area would care to watch the video and maybe correct my interpretation and misunderstanding of the general's ideas, perception, and ideas on this matter. Thank you.

 

azn_cyniq

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The recently retired Indian Army Chief, General Navarane, has been sharing his expertise and opinions on the recent geopolitical tensions and the hypothetical military conflicts that India may face in the future. Specifically, he addresses potential threats from Pakistan and China.

In the video, General Navarane discusses the persistent theme and concern of a two-front war. He explores strategies for avoiding such a scenario and, if it proves unavoidable, tactics for emerging victorious. This is the same officer who raised eyebrows in China following his visit to Taiwan. Participating in military discussions on the island, the general's presence was perceived by both the Chinese public and government as a provocative and insensitive act.

Unfortunately, Navarane's presentation style is dry and sleep-inducing. In my opinion, his ideas lean heavily towards fantastical scenarios, lacking a realistic appraisal of the capabilities of his country's adversaries, especially China. He overestimates India’s industrial capacity, disregarding China's significant advantage in this area.

General Navarane suggests that India should emulate Israel’s preemptive strike during the 1967 war. This would involve crippling one opponent’s air force to concentrate all of India’s industrial and human resources against China. He draws a parallel between the Battle of Pusan and a potential war with China and Pakistan, citing India's successful defense and assistance in the liberation of Bangladesh as a blueprint for victory in hypothetical conflicts.

I hope that General Navarane’s presentation is more a play to the gallery, intended to stir the passions of an increasingly hyper-nationalistic Indian audience, rather than a serious strategic proposal. His emphasis on India’s military prowess could be more about boosting national pride than offering a substantive analysis of the geopolitical landscape.

I hope that members on this forum that are far more knowledgeable on this area would care to watch the video and maybe correct my interpretation and misunderstanding of the general's ideas, perception, and ideas on this matter. Thank you.

I doubt India could win a one-front war against Pakistan.
 

james smith esq

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At least have some targets. If you don’t have vehicles or models at least paint a big white bullseye on the mountain. Live firing against random rocks only proof that you can hit the broad side of a mountain. How are you even supposed to assess the accuracy of your shots?
still, Still, STILL, you underestimate the capabilities of the Soopahpowah military!
Don’t you know that, when they fire the ordinance, as it hits the rock, they exclaim: “look, it hit exactly where we aimed it!”?
edit: and, they believe it!
 
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Biscuits

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The recently retired Indian Army Chief, General Navarane, has been sharing his expertise and opinions on the recent geopolitical tensions and the hypothetical military conflicts that India may face in the future. Specifically, he addresses potential threats from Pakistan and China.

In the video, General Navarane discusses the persistent theme and concern of a two-front war. He explores strategies for avoiding such a scenario and, if it proves unavoidable, tactics for emerging victorious. This is the same officer who raised eyebrows in China following his visit to Taiwan. Participating in military discussions on the island, the general's presence was perceived by both the Chinese public and government as a provocative and insensitive act.

Unfortunately, Navarane's presentation style is dry and sleep-inducing. In my opinion, his ideas lean heavily towards fantastical scenarios, lacking a realistic appraisal of the capabilities of his country's adversaries, especially China. He overestimates India’s industrial capacity, disregarding China's significant advantage in this area.

General Navarane suggests that India should emulate Israel’s preemptive strike during the 1967 war. This would involve crippling one opponent’s air force to concentrate all of India’s industrial and human resources against China. He draws a parallel between the Battle of Pusan and a potential war with China and Pakistan, citing India's successful defense and assistance in the liberation of Bangladesh as a blueprint for victory in hypothetical conflicts.

I hope that General Navarane’s presentation is more a play to the gallery, intended to stir the passions of an increasingly hyper-nationalistic Indian audience, rather than a serious strategic proposal. His emphasis on India’s military prowess could be more about boosting national pride than offering a substantive analysis of the geopolitical landscape.

I hope that members on this forum that are far more knowledgeable on this area would care to watch the video and maybe correct my interpretation and misunderstanding of the general's ideas, perception, and ideas on this matter. Thank you.

In the first place, how will they cripple Pakistani air force, especially a Pakistan aided by Chinese data sharing?

Even if one just handwaves it and assume that works out, "focusing all of India's industrial and human resources on China" will still be insufficient.

China has some ~300 5th gens and around some 1k 4.5 gens. In contrast, India has ~300 4.5 gens, with most of those being the older Su30MKI. The disparity in air power is as big as that between the coalition and Iraq during the Iraq war.

Similar to plans against Japanese and American aggression, China would use advanced missiles and 5th gens to kick down the door (destroy air defenses, radars) and then pour cheap suicide drones into infrastructure and other lower value targets.

In the ground front, once Indian logistics depots are destroyed (causing further strain to a system that only has about a month's worth of often import dependent weapons), light tank and mountain fighting units would move against Sikkim, in order to cut off India from it's eastern half, while a spearhead assault against major northern Indian cities is done either through Xinjiang or Pakistan border direction.

Chinese forces would mostly not move in and clear out major Indian cities block by block. Many Indian cities are heavily dependent on intra city logistics networks for water, electricity and fuel. As these depots are taken out by air, Indian army concentrations inside the cities will eventually be forced to come out, allowing the PLA to engage them in open fields.

At this point, it would be prudent for India to seek peace rather than fight on.

The only scenario where China may need more caution is if NATO supports India with more materiel than even Ukraine is receiving. However, giving away that much material is going to cripple them and could open them up to direct attack. In such cases, China can still stand on range and focus on the aerial destruction of Northern Indian depots.
 

Stealthflanker

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General Navarane suggests that India should emulate Israel’s preemptive strike during the 1967 war. This would involve crippling one opponent’s air force to concentrate all of India’s industrial and human resources against China.

This thing demands MANY missiles and munitions which, I dont see Indians have. Especially if they intend to strike Chinese Industries which at the far East side of the map. They clearly need more missiles and things like long range bombers.
 

Aswin_hht

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Now we know the name of the supposed Uttam deriviatives for Su-30MKI's "Virupaaksha". The plan is to upgrade 84 aircrafts.
Some sources suggests that Virupaksha is only a test platform on which they test these AESA radars. Apparently, Uttam was also tested on the same testbed. The general consensus is that the new radar will be named Uttam MKIII and it will be a GaN based system but no one knows if this system is in prototype stage or is only on paper for now.
 

Stealthflanker

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Some sources suggests that Virupaksha is only a test platform on which they test these AESA radars. Apparently, Uttam was also tested on the same testbed. The general consensus is that the new radar will be named Uttam MKIII and it will be a GaN based system but no one knows if this system is in prototype stage or is only on paper for now.

Yes i heard that too. The India can actually get away wit scaled up Uttam tbh, although yes the "scaling" could probably be not worth the effort and the desire for GaN.
 
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