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RedMetalSeadramon

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Abominable said:
I meant the calibre of the rifle, but India has had problems manufacturing ammo.

They bought American sig sauers not long ago but the locally made ammo kept blowing up the barrels.

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Looks like Indians tried to shove their dirty steel cases in the overpriced plastic American princess. Inconsistent loads and weak AR extractors causes deformation and squibs that stops and blow up guns.
 
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Temstar said:
It's not just the aircraft, which really isn't that far off since they just need to make a call on buying from French or US and pay up, it's not like they're building the planes.

The carrier is also missing her arrestor cables and her radars, she's got a way to go yet.
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Did they solve the problems of the planes fitting on the lifts?
 
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RedMetalSeadramon said:
Looks like Indians tried to shove their dirty steel cases in the overpriced plastic American princess. Inconsistent loads and weak AR extractors causes deformation and squibs that stops and blow up guns.
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Holy crap, how is this issue of assault rifles still not solved

I thought buying foreign was the end of the INSAS saga. But with the russian arms embargo likely affecting their AK203, seems like they're still going to have assault rifle problems for decades.
 
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RedMetalSeadramon said:
Looks like Indians tried to shove their dirty steel cases in the overpriced plastic American princess.
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I used to send the dirtiest ammo (including steel cased) through my HK rifle and never had issues. Did this ammo cause the same issue with their AKs and or the INSAS? If those rifles can handle their locally produced ammo, then why can't the SIG ?

But this isn't really the worst part of this story. The part where the Indian Army blows my mind, is that they didn't order any optics with this rifle. They decided from the start to use frekkin iron sights on these things (why?!) Quote:

"But above all, the rifles lacked optical day, night, holographic and even basic LED-powered reflex ‘red-dot’ sights as the MoD, under IA advisement had, out of pecuniary considerations, decided against acquiring these critical auxiliary add-ons"

So let me get this straight.... the Indian Army itself advised the MoD, not to to buy the optics, which are the most important add-on for any rifle?! This is incompetence on a whole other level... Why would you spend millions acquiring a thing, if you can't spend a few more millions to make it actually useful? You might as well not have spent anything in the first place!
 
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Mohsin77 said:
I used to send the dirtiest ammo (including steel cased) through my HK rifle and never had issues. Did this ammo cause the same issue with their AKs and or the INSAS? If those rifles can handle their locally produced ammo, then why can't the SIG ?

But this isn't really the worst part of this story. The part where the Indian Army blows my mind, is that they didn't order any optics with this rifle. They decided from the start to use frekkin iron sights on these things (why?!) Quote:

"But above all, the rifles lacked optical day, night, holographic and even basic LED-powered reflex ‘red-dot’ sights as the MoD, under IA advisement had, out of pecuniary considerations, decided against acquiring these critical auxiliary add-ons"

So let me get this straight.... the Indian Army itself advised the MoD, not to to buy the optics, which are the most important add-on for any rifle?! This is incompetence on a whole other level... Why would you spend millions acquiring a thing, if you can't spend a few more millions to make it actually useful? You might as well not have spent anything in the first place!
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Maybe they had a separate contact in mind in the future, to balance their current year budget.

In Canada we call this contract splitting, but maybe this is not as frowned upon in India.
 
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Mohsin77 said:
I used to send the dirtiest ammo (including steel cased) through my HK rifle and never had issues. Did this ammo cause the same issue with their AKs and or the INSAS? If those rifles can handle their locally produced ammo, then why can't the SIG ?

But this isn't really the worst part of this story. The part where the Indian Army blows my mind, is that they didn't order any optics with this rifle. They decided from the start to use frekkin iron sights on these things (why?!) Quote:

"But above all, the rifles lacked optical day, night, holographic and even basic LED-powered reflex ‘red-dot’ sights as the MoD, under IA advisement had, out of pecuniary considerations, decided against acquiring these critical auxiliary add-ons"

So let me get this straight.... the Indian Army itself advised the MoD, not to to buy the optics, which are the most important add-on for any rifle?! This is incompetence on a whole other level... Why would you spend millions acquiring a thing, if you can't spend a few more millions to make it actually useful? You might as well not have spent anything in the first place!
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Maybe they plan to buy optics from SSS or other native company? Then put them on SIG716
Use iron sight is not a good idea.
 
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