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A Bar Brother

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this is the frozen AMCA design, i don't like the nose one bit,
the frontal part looks like an f22, except for the diamond wings
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The angle of the pic makes it look like that. it is a pretty normal sized nose.
 

A Bar Brother

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The recent media reports and the official rebuttals will be a very good eye-opener for the gentlemen on this forum. Now they have an idea about defense journalism in India.
 

A Bar Brother

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Snecma and HAL to create a joint venture and build a new production facility in India

Snecma (Safran), a leading manufacturer of aircraft engines, and Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL), a leading aerospace manufacturer, signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on January 28, 2015 in Bangalore to explore establishing a joint venture in India for the production of aero-engine parts. The MoU was signed by Mr. Bruno Durand, Vice President for Industrial Operations & Supply Chain of Snecma and Mr. Arunachalam Muthukumaraswami, General Manager of the Engine Division of HAL.

The proposed joint venture will initially focus on the manufacture of high-tech parts for the Dassault Rafale’s Snecma M88 engine, then subsequently contribute to other major aerospace projects of HAL & Snecma, in India and worldwide. Spanning over 30,000 square meters, the proposed joint venture’s new plant is expected to benefit from substantial investment by the two partners, providing it with state-of-the-art machinery and equipment.

This agreement marks a major step forward in the long-standing collaboration between Snecma and HAL. The proposed joint venture will further broaden the scope of the excellent relations established over the past 60 years between Safran affiliates and the Indian aerospace industry*. For example, Snecma manufactures the M53 engines powering the Mirage 2000H "Vajra" fighters operated by the Indian Air Force.

"This new partnership clearly reflects the close relationship established over many years between Snecma, our parent Safran and the Indian aerospace industry," said Pierre Fabre, Chairman and CEO of Snecma. "We are strongly committed to contributing to the ’Make in India’ policy, based on ambitious partnerships and extensive direct investments. This new venture is further proof that we are actively strengthening our existing ties with HAL.”


* Safran has been operating in India for over 60 years. The Group employs more than 2,600 highly skilled employees in the country with an average annual workforce growth of 30 per cent in the last decade. Safran operates in India across its 3 core businesses : delivering effective expertise to the country’s growing aerospace industry, along with leading edge navigation and optronics equipment for the defense sector, and biometrics solution for the security market. Over the decades of association, Safran’s activities have evolved to include strong local partnerships with Indian military aviation industry based on joint developments, production and support licenses for airplane, helicopter and rocket engines, landing gear, navigation systems, as well as the associated support services.
 

thunderchief

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After the report is submitted, the deal will be considered by the Cabinet Committee on Security and MoD concerning the veracity of the contract followed by the Finance Ministry concerning the financial terms of the deal. The PMO's green light is just protocol, it shouldn't affect the deal.

The contract negotiations are over. So the deal should be signed on or before the PM's Europe tour. So expect the first squadron to be delivered by April 2018, and the second squadron by April 2019. The production of 126 jets should be competed before the first FGFA is delivered.

Ambiguous statement by the minister , most likely pushing responsibility for the decision on the whole Government instead of just MoD . We would need to wait and see .
 

A Bar Brother

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Ambiguous statement by the minister , most likely pushing responsibility for the decision on the whole Government instead of just MoD . We would need to wait and see .

That won't work. MoD can't push its responsibility onto somebody else. Anyway, the Rafale negotiation committee is part of MoD. He is waiting for them to finish their work and expecting their report in the next few weeks is all he says.

But, yes, there's still some crucial work remaining. That's why I detailed the amount of work still left with respect to the CCS and Finance Ministry.
 

A Bar Brother

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which is what i meant ,when i said about what i expected,
what is the use of haveing ground mapping ability then?
if it can't even rotate

All the operational AESAs today are fixed and capable of ground attack. Some of them, like the one on the F-35, do not even have the radar face angled towards the ground. The T/R modules are expected to electronically steer and point towards the ground.
 
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