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Brumby

Major
The air force is setting realistic goals for the AMCA's aerodynamics.

In other news, FGFA's development is being advanced. So we may see the FGFA in Indian colors around 2023.

2023 is too far away. When the FGFA is actually signed it would be a good start. I know that it might even be a few days away but the contract has been rather stealthy.
 

A Bar Brother

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2023 is too far away. When the FGFA is actually signed it would be a good start. I know that it might even be a few days away but the contract has been rather stealthy.

I already told you we are working towards the Stage-2 with the new engine. The definitive engine is expected to fly in 2017 and be ready by 2019. It is expected the Stage-2 for IAF will be ready by 2020 and MKIzation by 2022-23. It is following the original schedule if it keeps to that date.

Now, it is you who don't believe the FGFA is expected to carry next generation avionics, more advanced than the F-35. I don't consider the FGFA to be far away, rather its actual competition is far away. But I don't want to talk about it because I will get called again for "speculations," even though the writing is on the wall. Indian officials have admitted the Stage-1 AESA is just a simple radar, that our version will be far superior.

Contracts in India have always been stealthy.

Well, if they themselves are saying that the first test aircraft will fly, "after 2018," I expect we will be lucky to see a production Indian Air force aircraft by 2023.

The first flight was expected to be in 2017, now it's been pushed to 2018 apparently. If it is to be built in India, that's a pretty good deal.

I suppose the 2nd 6th prototype (T-50-6-1) will not come to India, rather India will get the one of the first Stage-2 prototypes, a single-seater.
 

The Philosopher

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I already told you we are working towards the Stage-2 with the new engine. The definitive engine is expected to fly in 2017 and be ready by 2019. It is expected the Stage-2 for IAF will be ready by 2020 and MKIzation by 2022-23. It is following the original schedule if it keeps to that date.

Now, it is you who don't believe the FGFA is expected to carry next generation avionics, more advanced than the F-35. I don't consider the FGFA to be far away, rather its actual competition is far away. But I don't want to talk about it because I will get called again for "speculations," even though the writing is on the wall. Indian officials have admitted the Stage-1 AESA is just a simple radar, that our version will be far superior.

Contracts in India have always been stealthy.



The first flight was expected to be in 2017, now it's been pushed to 2018 apparently. If it is to be built in India, that's a pretty good deal.

I suppose the 2nd 6th prototype (T-50-6-1) will not come to India, rather India will get the one of the first Stage-2 prototypes, a single-seater.
Its said that India's bureaucracy is very inefficient because of corruption and their weapon system seems to always suffer malfuctions because of poorly made parts like the LAC helicopter. I think that's what it's called so it's probably going to take longer then that plus the Russians aren't that helpful either
 

Brumby

Major
I already told you we are working towards the Stage-2 with the new engine. The definitive engine is expected to fly in 2017 and be ready by 2019. It is expected the Stage-2 for IAF will be ready by 2020 and MKIzation by 2022-23. It is following the original schedule if it keeps to that date.

That wasn't the question nor the nature of my post. The issue I have with all these far out dates is that they are rather meaningless because India has a poor track record of delivering according to plan especially as complex as a 5th gen program. Rather than talk about these dates, actual signing of the FGFA contract would be a good step. So let's see if that can be accomplished in the near future. Everything else is really fluff.
 

aksha

Captain
EXCLUSIVE: August 1st Flight For HAL's Light Utility Copter

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HAL's Light Utility Helicopter (LUH), under development to meet a requirement of at least 187 light reconnaissance and utility rotorcraft for the Indian Air Force and Indian Army is all set for its first flight in August. An internal target of July has been set for the sole current prototype at HAL's Helicopter Division to lift off in July, though sources confirm that August is likely to be when it will happen. The LUH prototype (two more will be built for the flight test programme) has been in a routine of ground testing for weeks now. The LUH mock-up on display at Aero India this year is in Indian Army colours, and has been a source of interest for quite a few foreign delegations at the show this year. Quick news points:
  • The first LUH prototype will fly in August, officially kickstarting flight test.
  • HAL aims for final operational clearance in 2017, and begin deliveries to the Indian Army and IAF by the end of that year.
  • The LUH sports a new jointed foldable rotor system (see photo), designed and built in-house
  • to meet the Indian Navy's deck requirements. Significantly, the rotor will be made available on future Dhruv ALH constructions and re-offered to the Indian Navy.
  • For a proposed naval version, HAL says it will offer a wheeled version of the LUH.
  • The LUH cockpit is almost entirely an Indian glass cockpit, with components and systems sources completely from the Indian private sector, and mission computer software modified from the Dhruv's.
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aksha

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BrahMos Integrated Su-30MKI Handed Over To IAF For Trials

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has received the first Sukhoi-30MKI fitted with indigenous BrahMos thermonuclear cruise missile ready for trials from Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) today during Aero India Airshow. HAL CEO Suvarna Raju and BrahMos CEO and MD Sudhir Kumar Mishra were present during the handing over of the documents to IAF. Earlier this month, HAL had announced successful integration of BrahMos missile’s air-based version with a SU-MKI fighter jet earlier this month. The first flight is scheduled in March. Major structural modifications of the missile that include re- distribution of loads on the lifting elements of the aircraft after the bench running have been carried out over the past seven months. The first trial tests are scheduled in March. Second trail fighter jet testing will commence after the March test and all the tests might be completed in about a year. The same pattern will be applied to the existing Indian Air Force's 42 Su-30MKI jets. The Indian government’s security committee endorsed allocation of $ 1.1 billion in October 2012 for purchasing 200 BrahMos missiles to be installed on Su-30MKI fighters of the Indian Air Force. The weight of the air-based version of the missile was reduced by 500 kilograms and the length by about 50 centimetres to make the integration successful.
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