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AlexYe

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They’ll need to completely rework the intakes and rear airframe though.
No i mean why didnt they go for russian engines from the start.
Would it be faster though? Russia is fighting a war right now, and they're not exactly going to prioritize production for India. For the same reason, I think that the Super Sukhoi upgrade plan is going to take forever to materialize.
I am assuming it be relatively faster? Somehow pakistan via china route keeps receiving the Russian engines(unless they are being made in China?) for the jf17, even the newer block3 variants got them
 

gelgoog

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Would it be faster though? Russia is fighting a war right now, and they're not exactly going to prioritize production for India.
It would be some RD-33 derivative. Which Russia thus far has had no issues supplying Pakistan with.
With MiG-35 production stopped that production line is operating below capacity.

For the same reason, I think that the Super Sukhoi upgrade plan is going to take forever to materialize.
Only because India insists on putting Western imported shit in it and does not fund it properly.

The Su-30SM2 is basically that aircraft already.
 

GiantPanda

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With the recent downturn of US-india relations any icbm type stuff is gonna be looked upon badly by US.
If they are working on angi 6 etc they shouldnt test it out.

Meanwhile India has approved $7.4 billion worth of more Tejas's

Only in India is a lightweight fighter that is made locally almost twice expensive as an imported heavyweight fighter.

When you lower your ambitions to a LCA -- and not just a lightweight fighter but the smallest in that class (smallest of smallest!) -- you are trying to save money.

To end up with a tiny fighter being more expensive than larger more capable aircraft means you have failed completely on so many levels.
 

AlexYe

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Will it be paid upon delivery?
These sort of payments are done year by year basis, 10%-15% are given in the start and rest is based on deliveries/milestones, released in different tranches. The entire sum isnt given in 1 go.
Only because India insists on putting Western imported shit in it and does not fund it properly.
Yeah the indian su30's have israeli and french stuff in it
 

4Tran

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No i mean why didnt they go for russian engines from the start.

I am assuming it be relatively faster? Somehow pakistan via china route keeps receiving the Russian engines(unless they are being made in China?) for the jf17, even the newer block3 variants got them
They didn't go for Russian engines because they thought that American ones were "better". India has an underlying attitude that Western technology is just better than Russia tech, and so they'll go for the former whenever there's a choice. It's why they made the insane choice to go with 5.56mm ammunition for the INSAS.

To be fair, American engines have longer lifespans than Russian ones, so there is some long term advantage there. But it also makes India vulnerable to American diplomatic pressure, so it seems like a terrible tradeoff. Then again, since when was the Indian military known for making good decisions?

It would be some RD-33 derivative. Which Russia thus far has had no issues supplying Pakistan with.
With MiG-35 production stopped that production line is operating below capacity.
It's one thing to fulfill existing contracts. But setting up a new production for India, and implementing all the changes that India is obviously going to demand? That might not turn out very well.
 

Mmmeeeto

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Israeli media reports that a "prominent South Asian nation with close ties to Israel" approached IDF and Mossad leadership, requesting details on Israel's decapitation strike against Iran in the hope of planning a similar event
(presumably against Pakistan - ed.)

I'm going to assume it's India
 

gelgoog

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To be fair, American engines have longer lifespans than Russian ones, so there is some long term advantage there.
Depends on what engines you are talking about. There were long lived Soviet and Russian engines. For example the NK-12 and D-30 series were notoriously reliable.

In fighter engines the AL-41 is about as reliable as US engines. Of course India insists on keep using the AL-31FP and then complains about short engine life.

People forget how notoriously unreliable the PW engines in the F-16 and F-15 used to be. That got fixed eventually. Well, so has AL-31 series engine lifetime increased in later models.
 
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