Not sure if this is to be attributed to chronic laziness or just mental retardation
Indian Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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It's not the problem of human capital. This will be my first reply on this forum so forgive me if i break any rule. We have very capable people who can be roped in to work on these projects and make them succesful, but the problem is that our government is more focused on winning votes for the next election and as such spends most of its time and (nations) resources in areas where the public is interested in and will give votes seeing the performance (thats just a small percentage of our politics, many more factors are related to our election results which are far from including subects like "Aircraft research'). There is simply not much interest or necessity in the indian political circles to focus on Military stuff (we barely started focusing on civilian research).
Due to this, the government pays peanuts to the scientists and forces them to work in inefficient environments which our DPSUs are famous for. Our scientists literally work in an environent which nerfs their stats (video game language used here). So for what reason will a fresh graduate or an experienced person consider going to these research insitutions when they can have better pay grade, work load, and overall a far better working environment in private firms (even these firms are foreign in most cases, meaning they go to other countries to work). This is one of the main factors of Brain drain. There is a not so popular saying in India,
" Jab padhega India tabhi to aage badhe ga America "
, basically saying that due to brain drain, the best minds of India do not work for the advancement of India, but for the advancement of USA.Once the government changes its attitude towards sectors like research and starts paying them high enough wages and working consitions and infrastructure to match the private and foreign cos., then only can we advance at the rate mirroring the advanced countries.
Lurker jumps in to prove my point
Bonus points if you can spot out which of the categories I listed can be found in his explanation
you may find this to be of your interest. They are basically an infant startup that is trying to make defence products, as such they are at a very basic level and we should not expect anything notable from them for atleast a decade. Defence research takes time,when you have money and are serious about it. Cant say anything about these guy's financial capability but their attitude is netiher praiseworthy or something to lament about. lets see what comes out of these guys in the few years.
I am sorry if i may sound a bit rude or maybe a bit childish, but may i know what point of yours did i prove? I am new to these type of forums so you can say i lack many of the basic needed for discussions here. I look forward to learning them as time passes tho.Lurker jumps in to prove my point
When it comes to India's domestic defense industry, one of their principal challenges is supply chain reliability.
Your projects will inevitably struggle to work out kinks and make progress at a reasonable pace when i. vendors are constantly cutting corners to fund kickbacks while ii. your own leaders are more focused on finding new ways to monetize conflicts of interest than actually reaching milestones.
Worse yet, when there's a culture of corruption, the propensity for and frequency of corruption often become largely, if not effectively unmanageable due to FOMO, as officers struggle to maintain discipline because the popular assumption is that everyone is corrupt.
In all fairness, that happens in a lot of democratic or supposedly democratic countries struggling with chronic bureaucratic dysfunction.
Therefore, as the world's biggest democracy (whatever that may actually mean), we shouldn't be surprised by India's leadership is this capacity . . .
Lethe
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Welcome to the board. Unfortunately, discussions about India on SDF tend to be squeezed between widespread mockery and even racialised hatred on the one hand, and the occasional delusional defense of the indefensible on the other. Some of us try to comment and reflect on the many serious problems within India's defence-industrial apparatus in a non-prejudicial manner, but it's a narrow path that tends not to satisfy either side. SDF on India tends not to be SDF at its best, I guess is what I'm saying. Good luck!
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Sounds like the problem isn't an absolute shortage of human capital, but inadequate access to the requisite human capital caused by horribly misaligned incentive structures at an institutional level . . .
P.S. Welcome to the board!