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weig2000

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You might be right in the fact that India may need to burn everything to the ground as China did with the Cultural Revolution. It's ironic because cultural sophistication is a handicap to change because you have to unlearn your identity and way of thinking first before adopting something new.

This is why being older and/or being more developed are things that make it harder for a Civilization to adapt quickly to change. China like all great Civilizations is very proud and deeply learned in its age-old traditions and beliefs but unfortunately, those approaches tend to be backward and incompatible with the modern global society which is built around Western Civilization. As tragic and evil as the Cultural Revolution was for China, it was a necessary Faustian bargain for the people to make as it allowed Chinese society to revert back to zero from a development path less suited to modernity. When you are brought up to think and behave like an engineer it is hard to unlearn your training and to act like a warrior or musician.

People should watch Netflix's White Tiger as it perfectly encapsulates the ignorance and servile nature ingrained into the Indian underclass as well as the tyranny of cousins that holds back India's potential. Even with a strong work ethic and high intelligence, it is almost impossible to escape the cycle of poverty present.

What has turned China around in a more fundamental way was the Communist Revolution, not Cultural Revolution. Cultural Revolution was much more destructive than constructive, and was much shorter in duration. If there was any positive (unintended) impact, it is that CR had shattered the confidence in the political leadership model and command economy model that China had practiced since the founding of the PRC. It laid the foundation for a new consensus within CCP and the larger Chinese society that had also ushered in the era of Reform and Opening supported by Deng and the majority of the CCP. Without CR, there would have been endless debates about what models to follow and work best, e.g., Capitalist vs. Socialist.

The Communist Revolution had destroyed China's tradition social hierarchy, rearranged and leveled the play field, centralized political power and redistributed the wealth (primarily land) among the mass, and challenged many of the outmoded traditional ways of thinking. Most important of all, the Revolution had created CCP, a strong, well organized and disciplined party institution that can lead and organize the vast society of China from top to bottom. It must be remembered that CCP had gone through a lot of trial and tribulation, withstood so much fire and steel to eventually found the Republic. It was quite a different experience from what India had experienced to gain independence. That different experiences in the nation-building process between modern China and India have had profound influence in how the two countries perform later, even without considering the vastly different experiences as civilization states before the new respective republic was founded.
 
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voyager1

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So with China's 2020 gdp being $14.7 trillion and with an estinated growth rate of, lets say, 8.5% thats $1.25 trillion growth in a Single year!

Now India's 2020 gdp is $2.7 trillion and with an estimated growth rate, from article, of 9.3% thats ~$250 bin growth.

So in a single year China will grow by $1.25 trillion while India will grow by only $250 billion. Thats a net 1 trillion growth for China!
 

weig2000

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So with China's 2020 gdp being $14.7 trillion and with an estinated growth rate of, lets say, 8.5% thats $1.25 trillion growth in a Single year!

Now India's 2020 gdp is $2.7 trillion and with an estimated growth rate, from article, of 9.3% thats ~$250 bin growth.

So in a single year China will grow by $1.25 trillion while India will grow by only $250 billion. Thats a net 1 trillion growth for China!

Actually no. China's GDP of $14.7 trillion last year was based on last year average dollar/rmb exchange rate of 6.89. The Chinese currency has appreciated significantly since late last year and is currently at about 6.4. That's a 7% appreciation. If you assume 8.5% growth, 1.5% GDP deflator (inflation essentially) and average exchange rate of 6.4, then China's nominal GDP this year would be something like $17.34 trillion.

Yes, that growth in GDP alone is equivalent to India's entire 2020 GDP.
 

voyager1

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Actually no. China's GDP of $14.7 trillion last year was based on last year average dollar/rmb exchange rate of 6.89. The Chinese currency has appreciated significantly since late last year and is currently at about 6.4. That's a 7% appreciation. If you assume 8.5% growth, 1.5% GDP deflator (inflation essentially) and average exchange rate of 6.4, then China's nominal GDP this year would be something like $17.34 trillion.

Yes, that growth in GDP alone is equivalent to India's entire 2020 GDP.
Lmao but what about India Supepowa 2020 2021?....

Tremendous growth by China. So in 2021 China will add a growth almost equal to France entire's economy in a single year!

Lets hear again by that failing Macron about human rights
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Maybe India can do a Cultural Revolution by enforcing that Dalits are now the bosses and Brahmins are to be in perpetual indentured servitude to Dalits. That'll shake things up a bit
 

NiuBiDaRen

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In comparison, South Korea is ethnically and linguistically homogenous.

Plus it has a Confucian society which has base precepts in equality of education and opportunity, plus rules governing an individual's relationship to everyone else in society.
Must be that superior East Asian genetic stock.

Keonpae!

@horse
 

ansy1968

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In your humble opinion, sounding a lot like a latter day Christian missionary, Jihadist or NeoCon, what next we need our troops in country X because little girls need to go to school, its easy to rationalise any action.

You know that bit in China's foreign Policy about leaving country's to deal with their own internal affairs I fully subscribe to it!
@hkbc bro @voyager1 and I both from the outside looking in had seen the suffering of the Indians and it pains us, they're human being same as us. China experience the same thing and being a Hua Qiao is a proof of that, my father had seen the horror of war and the abuses of the KMT, so leaving China pains him deeply until his death. That is the lesson he always place upon me, that China needed to be strong and major changes are necessary and follow SUN YAT SEN THREE PRINCIPLE which is nationalism, democracy, and the livelihood of the people.
 
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