That was a real "Mission Accomplished" moment for Modi.
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It's a shame so much of India still has such unbelievable trust and belief in such a pathetic failure of a man and leader. You could not get a worse leader (and sorry he's not a product of his circumstances) if you actually grabbed a random street vendor and asked him to govern.
Modi had at least one full year to get his act together, organise, prepare, learn! (not just from western propaganda and demagogue tripe), and flatten curves etc. Instead it was self delusion, self congratulatory nonsense, and self declared victories. Again an example of not even bothering to understand the problem, re-inventing the problem in self delusion, and then declaring victory over self-invented problem set while not acknowledging reality and facts. No doubt a more intelligent leader would not have blundered so much. If not Rahul Gandhi, even Shashi Tharoor seems to at least have some genuine intelligence even if most of it is verbal intelligence and character. Modi has nothing.
Yes China's gov conducted arguably overzealous lockdowns and control - it worked. India forced hundreds of thousands of its people to walk thousands of kilometers on feet! with zero gov support and mechanical transportation. No sanitation through the journey and hardly a secure source of water. Any reasonable based person would pick harsh medicine over feel good nonsense every day. Yet Modi controls the narrative in India as tightly as the CCP in China lol the irony.
For the chauvinishts, either Covid was widespread in the world well before December 2019 (which evidence shows was the case in Spain and parts of Europe even as far back as March 2019). Which kind of excuses the outbreaks that eventually were observed once they were measured and looked for. Or while China was openly warning everyone and talking about it in Jan 2020, cases in India were far and few if any. So many other nations had more cases and more problem but managed to contain it and then eradicate infections. The failure to not perform at least as well, rests only on Indian government's performance then. It has no other blame.
By the way, plenty of "whistleblower" doctors and nurses in the US also sounded the alarm before December 2019 in the US of mysteriously high numbers of pneumonia. That's exactly what the Chinese doctor said to friends on social media. He wasn't any more of a whistleblower than those American healthcare workers. It's not like he said that the CCP weaponised SARS and is spreading it. He said there are much more pneumonia cases than statistical norm.
Modi had at least one full year to get his act together, organise, prepare, learn! (not just from western propaganda and demagogue tripe), and flatten curves etc. Instead it was self delusion, self congratulatory nonsense, and self declared victories. Again an example of not even bothering to understand the problem, re-inventing the problem in self delusion, and then declaring victory over self-invented problem set while not acknowledging reality and facts. No doubt a more intelligent leader would not have blundered so much. If not Rahul Gandhi, even Shashi Tharoor seems to at least have some genuine intelligence even if most of it is verbal intelligence and character. Modi has nothing.
Yes China's gov conducted arguably overzealous lockdowns and control - it worked. India forced hundreds of thousands of its people to walk thousands of kilometers on feet! with zero gov support and mechanical transportation. No sanitation through the journey and hardly a secure source of water. Any reasonable based person would pick harsh medicine over feel good nonsense every day. Yet Modi controls the narrative in India as tightly as the CCP in China lol the irony.
For the chauvinishts, either Covid was widespread in the world well before December 2019 (which evidence shows was the case in Spain and parts of Europe even as far back as March 2019). Which kind of excuses the outbreaks that eventually were observed once they were measured and looked for. Or while China was openly warning everyone and talking about it in Jan 2020, cases in India were far and few if any. So many other nations had more cases and more problem but managed to contain it and then eradicate infections. The failure to not perform at least as well, rests only on Indian government's performance then. It has no other blame.
By the way, plenty of "whistleblower" doctors and nurses in the US also sounded the alarm before December 2019 in the US of mysteriously high numbers of pneumonia. That's exactly what the Chinese doctor said to friends on social media. He wasn't any more of a whistleblower than those American healthcare workers. It's not like he said that the CCP weaponised SARS and is spreading it. He said there are much more pneumonia cases than statistical norm.
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Well said, the Chinese civilization being able to pull off the greatest and fastest industrialization in history is due to its cultural continuity, NOT in spite of it.
"To break sharply with the past is to court the madness that may follow the shock of sudden blows or mutilations. As the sanity of the individual lies in the continuity of his memories, so the sanity of a group lies in the continuity of its traditions; in either case a break in the chain invites a neurotic reaction." - Will Durant
I would say democracy at this stage is the biggest problem in India.
India is not ready for democracy. You first develop your economy, raise your standard of living, then you can start talking about democracy.
Climate change is a bigger threat to India than China ever will be. India is jealous of China and obsessed about their image compared to China.
They should be worrying about all the internal problems they have.
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Not really Thru history the confucian scholar recommend a rational policy to improve people life But most often than not they fail because the power is in the hand of Autocratical rule of imperial system where power is in the hand of emperor himself or eunuch. If you watch CGTN documentary now China too is going back to her past and lauded the dedication and accomplishment of confucian scholar
@Petrolicious88 bro to many to mention but here are the few, caste system, religion and some cultural belief. India need a Mao to rectify all its illness. You may not like the guy but he implement some crucial society reform like banning foot binding and equal rights for women. He set the stage for China to become one of the respected country we know today.
India definetely needs its own Mao. They need someone with a wrecking ball to destroy everything and everyone standing on the way to rejuvenation (lol) of India. He needs to fundamentally change the society in India.
However this is so so extremely difficult I give it an almost 0% chance of happening.
With this high difficulty, you can see why Mao is revered so much. Simple stuff, without Mao this modern China that the people are now seeing wouldnt even exist
@voyager1 bro they thought they have one in Modi, instead they get a wannabe Trump ...LOL
But you need to have an idea of what you want to be before the 'wrecking ball' as you say goes in, otherwise its just going to be the Khmer Rouge, killing fields! The CPC had decades in the wilderness to contemplate and the lessons of the 1911 revolution to digest.
What is Indian society, and where does it want to head?
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