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Indianfighter
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Russia has provided fully built Su-30 MKIs in the past also.tphuang said:
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26 kits+24 fully built Su-30 MKIs.tphuang said:
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Su-30 MKI programme on schedule: HAL
Bangalore, Sept. 3 (PTI): The Hindustan Aeronautics Limited today said it had not scrapped the initial plans for full indigenisation of Sukhoi fighter aircraft at its facilities in India and said the production of the warplane continued in HAL. The Bangalore-headquartered HAL dismissed reports over Sukhoi (Su-30 MKI) in a section of the press, quoting a Russian newspaper, as "completely incorrect".
A HAL statement said "Total technology is getting established in HAL as planned. In order to complete the programme by 2015 instead of 2018, as required by the Indian Air Force, certain components and systems are being procured from Russia. This decision was taken to optimise the investments in HAL". It added: "The programme of indigenous production of Su-30 MKI aircraft in HAL is continuing at an accelerated pace as compared to earlier plan".
Media reports from Russia last week suggested that in a move to save costs and speed up delivery of Sukhoi fighter aircraft, HAL has scrapped initial plans for full indigenisation of the warplane at its facilities in India. Russia's `Kommersat' daily reportedly said an agreement signed recently between Russian arms firm Rosoboronexport and Indian Defence Ministry has changed the timeframe of the completion of USD 3.5 billion contract for the licensed production of 140 Su-MKI by HAL.
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Bangalore, Sept. 3 (PTI): The Hindustan Aeronautics Limited today said it had not scrapped the initial plans for full indigenisation of Sukhoi fighter aircraft at its facilities in India and said the production of the warplane continued in HAL. The Bangalore-headquartered HAL dismissed reports over Sukhoi (Su-30 MKI) in a section of the press, quoting a Russian newspaper, as "completely incorrect".
A HAL statement said "Total technology is getting established in HAL as planned. In order to complete the programme by 2015 instead of 2018, as required by the Indian Air Force, certain components and systems are being procured from Russia. This decision was taken to optimise the investments in HAL". It added: "The programme of indigenous production of Su-30 MKI aircraft in HAL is continuing at an accelerated pace as compared to earlier plan".
Media reports from Russia last week suggested that in a move to save costs and speed up delivery of Sukhoi fighter aircraft, HAL has scrapped initial plans for full indigenisation of the warplane at its facilities in India. Russia's `Kommersat' daily reportedly said an agreement signed recently between Russian arms firm Rosoboronexport and Indian Defence Ministry has changed the timeframe of the completion of USD 3.5 billion contract for the licensed production of 140 Su-MKI by HAL.
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ajaybhutani
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can you please elaborate more on the 24 fully built mkis part.. ?Indianfighter said:
thanks
Indianfighter
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You are welcome. The number of fully-built Su-30 MKIs by Russia is 18, since the IAF has 40-44 Su-30 MKIs presently, against my earlier assumption of 50. These 40 jets comprise of 10 Su-30 K aircraft which were originally meant for the Indonesian Air Force, and 8 Su-30 MK-1 aircraft that were delivered in semi-knocked kits in 1997.ajaybhutani said:
Thus, the correct break-up is 26 kits+18 fully built jets.
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I don't follow IAF every day, but it seems to me that the Russians delivered more than 18 MKIs. Anyhow, even if we use your calculation, it's still saying that HAL has produced no more than 26 MKIs. I don't see your point at all.Indianfighter said:
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At least 1 Su-30 MKI, has been produced by HAL from its facility at Nasik in 2004 or 2005. All the fabrication, assembly and testing was done in various parts of India.tphuang said:
I'm afraid it is me who is not following you. Manufacturing (or "produced" as mentioned by you) is not equivalent to assembling from kits.
The manufacturing line of the MKI jets shall not be decommissioned, according to the latest news report that was posted by me. Since indigenous assembly is now more expensive, it has been decided that presently some components and systems shall be sourced from Russia. This shall lead to reduction in costs of assembly.
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okay, let's make this simple for you.Indianfighter said:
18 su-30 directly produced and assembled in Russia.
26 kits delivered to India for assemble. Some of it may not be complete kits (allowing HAL to incorporate indigenenous components), so that's a maximum of 26 HAL assembled MKIs. What's so confusing about that?
I've been stating the same thing for the last 3 or 4 responses.