India incursion and Chinese standoff at Dolam, Bhutan

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siegecrossbow

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Just have to reiterate just how much of a moronic idea the Doklam Incursion was. Previously the PLA paid no attention to this region. Now we've got not only permanent ground troop garrisons but also advanced 4++ aircraft stationed in this area.
 

Hendrik_2000

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A generally good idea, but didn't a blimp just crash in the UK? I think the weather conditions in the hamalayans would be unstable. They will have plenty of challenges ahead. Maybe it'll be a summer only thing, don't think anyone is stupid enough to start things in the winter.

Actually Aerostats based radar has been operating for some time with US air force and they area quite stable for operation below 65 knots I check the wind speed in Himalaya and they are no more than 9.7m/s using online conversion it work out less than 20 knots
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Himalaya_Weather.png

This aerostats blimp has many advantages over the ground based . For once they can track small missile better than ground based radar They can carry large load so adding opto electric and other accessories is no problem. They are cheap and can be afloat for a long time

Here is wiki write up on AErostats
History[
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The first aerostats were assigned to the
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in December 1980 at
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, Fla. During the 1980s, the
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operated a network of aerostats to help counter illegal drug trafficking. Their first site was built at High Rock, Grand Bahamas Island, in 1984. The second site was built at Fort Huachuca, Ariz., in 1986. Before 1992, three agencies operated the TARS network: the Air Force, U.S. Customs Service and U.S. Coast Guard. Congress in 1992 transferred management of the system to the Defense Department, with the Air Force as executive agent. Under Air Force management, through contract consolidation and system standardization, the operations and maintenance cost per site was reduced from $6 million in fiscal year 1992 to $3.5 million in 2007.[
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] However the
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slashed funding for the Air Force, which tried to shut down the project.
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However, the
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(DHS) assumed responsibility the Tethered Aerostat Radar System (TARS) project and its funding since fiscal year 2014.
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Operators launch the aerostat from a large circular launch pad containing a mooring fixed or mobile system. The mooring systems contain a large winch with 25,000 feet (7,600 m) of tether cable. Operational availability is generally limited only by the weather (60 percent standard) and routine maintenance downtime. The aerostats are stable in winds below 65 knots (120 km/h). Aerostat and equipment availability averages more than 98 percent system-wide.

For security and safety reasons, air space around Air Force aerostat sites is restricted for a radius of at least two to three statute miles and an altitude up to 15,000 feet (4,600 m).

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The Aerostat ship Atlantic Sentry at Mallory dock in September 1987
The primary mission is to provide low-level radar surveillance along the southwest border of the United States and Mexico, the
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and the Caribbean in support of federal agencies involved in the nation's drug interdiction program. The secondary mission is to provide North American Aerospace Defense Command with low-level surveillance coverage for air sovereignty in the Florida Straits. The aerostat radar data is available to NORAD and U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

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Primary Function: Low-level, downward-looking radar; aircraft detection

Volume: 275,000 and 420,000 cubic feet (12,000 m3)

Tether Length: 25,000 feet (7,600 m)

Payload Weight: 1,200-2,200 pounds

Maximum Detection Range: 200 nautical miles (400 km)
 

siegecrossbow

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lol, one of the most important regions in mainland PRC and yetso either it's a
that you made up or PLA is run by a group of incompetent morons.

Pick one.

It was not the most important region in the PRC strategically. Manchuria, the East Coast, and Southern Eastern China were all more important until a big fuss was made over Doklam.
 

manqiangrexue

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lol, one of the most important regions in mainland PRC and yetso either it's a
that you made up or PLA is run by a group of incompetent morons.

Pick one.
It's not strategically important to China; it's strategically important to India. Prior to this incident, Sino-Indian relations were more benign and China did not seek to militarize a region that was sensitive to India but not itself. Now, India has pushed China to actively antagonize it by militarizing an area that India holds as crucial to its ability to supply its Western territory but is just a barren mountain range on the outskirts to China. Congratulations to India.

Now, either you're so envious of China that your brain can't think critically or you never had one to begin with. Pick one ;)
 

siegecrossbow

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It's not strategically important to China; it's strategically important to India. Prior to this incident, Sino-Indian relations were more benign and China did not seek to militarize a region that was sensitive to India but not itself. Now, India has pushed China to actively antagonize it by militarizing an area that India holds as crucial to its ability to supply its Western territory but is just a barren mountain range on the outskirts to China. Congratulations to India.

Now, either you're so envious of China that your brain can't think critically or you never had one to begin with. Pick one ;)

Hey man. Please don't use personal attacks even if you don't agree with a poster's pov.
 

ougoah

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Janiz made a fair logical point. Although the message behind it is clear and counters the general favour this forum holds China (CCP) in. I think this is where some offence may be received and retaliation served. This is the unfortunate consequence of dialectic thinking. When matters are sensitive, it plays to the uglier side of human nature. We project our pride and shield our insecurities while forcing ourselves to antagonise others and their perspectives. Is there any hope for peace?

Europeans waged war against each other for millenia. Today they are unified more or less and certain subgroups unify themselves further through whatever means of shared identity they hold e.g. neo nazis use race. If humans can find a way to create solidarity (in a better way than sharing common skin colour), we might be able to overcome this us and them trap. It is mathematically and biologically proven that we are all genetically related and every single person alive today share a common ancestor. Let's try to treat each other with respect and patience if we can see they are not intentionally trolling like a few other members actually do. I think most of us on this forum have the intelligence to find accurate meaning in what is said and what is not said. For the real trolls, by all means give it to them.
 
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