India incursion and Chinese standoff at Dolam, Bhutan

ougoah said:

Janiz made a fair logical point. Although the message behind it is clear and counters the general favour this forum holds China (CCP) in. I think this is where some offence may be received and retaliation served. This is the unfortunate consequence of dialectic thinking. When matters are sensitive, it plays to the uglier side of human nature. We project our pride and shield our insecurities while forcing ourselves to antagonise others and their perspectives. Is there any hope for peace?

Europeans waged war against each other for millenia. Today they are unified more or less and certain subgroups unify themselves further through whatever means of shared identity they hold e.g. neo nazis use race. If humans can find a way to create solidarity (in a better way than sharing common skin colour), we might be able to overcome this us and them trap. It is mathematically and biologically proven that we are all genetically related and every single person alive today share a common ancestor. Let's try to treat each other with respect and patience if we can see they are not intentionally trolling like a few other members actually do. I think most of us on this forum has the intelligence to find accurate meaning in what is said and what is not said. For the real trolls, by all means give it to them.

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ougoah said:

I understood the comment as being, if it's not (wasn't) supposedly strategic to China, why then militarise it. Therefore it has either always really been strategic or the government is stupid for militarising a supposedly non strategic area. That is the gist of what I think he meant. Now you and I and just about everyone else here all understand the other side of the argument and why this thinking is incorrect. Although, removed from the context, Janiz's comment does make sense, maybe even funny to some. Your message corrected it. However harsh it was I'm often much worse so can't say I disapprove at all. Also earlier observation about how arguments can really get out of hand from slight misunderstandings is just a thought. Nothing too serious.

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ougoah said:

I understood the comment as being, if it's not (wasn't) supposedly strategic to China, why then militarise it. Therefore it has either always really been strategic or the government is stupid for militarising a supposedly non strategic area. That is the gist of what I think he meant. Now you and I and just about everyone else here all understand the other side of the argument and why this thinking is incorrect. Although, removed from the context, Janiz's comment does make sense, maybe even funny to some. Your message corrected it. However harsh it was I'm often much worse so can't say I disapprove at all. Also earlier observation about how arguments can really get out of hand from slight misunderstandings is just a thought. Nothing too serious.

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manqiangrexue said:

So it would have been better if I reserved what I gave him and simply offloaded it onto Japan as a whole? OK... no problem.

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Hendrik_2000 said:

The foundation work on the Lhasa section of Nyingchi, part of the Sichuan-Tibet railway line, is now complete. 34 stations will be built on this stretch of 402 km, with a total investment of more than 4.6 billion €.

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Hendrik_2000 said:

The foundation work on the Lhasa section of Nyingchi, ...

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Jura said:

assuming you're referring to the map from
#540 Hendrik_2000, Yesterday at 8:30 PM
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I figured your "Nyingchi" = Nyingtri in that map, while "Kangding" = Ganzi in the map (

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saw Mount Gongga glacier in the process, it's just about twenty miles to the south from Kanding which is marked:

directly relevant to this thread is a possible Shigatse - Dromo railway (LOL I have a map ready from an earlier post:

Doka Pass is marked with x in red)

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