Impact of China's rise in the world - Long term predictions (30-50 years)

emblem21 said:

The USA has been commiting genocide on there natives and other nations around the world along with gaslighting those nations into thinking they are the bad guys simply for have the audacity to question why the USA along with its allies as to why they are killing them without any real reason.
This have been done for the last 5 decades and all this elicits from the west is yeah whatever. So advocating for the west to take responsibility for there evil deeds shouldn’t be too much to ask, if only because the west has gotten too happy with the idea with a war with Russia and China to balance their budgets books (due to there screw ups no less) in order to force both nations to have to pay the cost of such a war even though the USA has started it all. I do advocate the genocide of there militaries and all those that harm innocent life with reason or purpose (not the by standers that having nothing to do with it) to the last man so that the Consequences will be remembered forever and to cripple any future chance the west could ever have to rise again to harm others since really, what does the USA produce other then toilet paper and death and is still looking forward to do might I add

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Let me show you what genocide looks like.

The Holocaust: Est dead 5,750,000 to 6000,0000 Perpetrator, Nazi Germany
Nazi Polish Genocide: 1,800,000 to 3,000,000 Perpetrator, Nazi Germany
Cambodian Genocide: 1,386,734 to 3,000,000 Perpetrator, Communist Party of Kampuchea
Circassian genocide: 800,000 to 2,500,000 Perpetrator, Russian Empire
Armenian Genocide: 700,000 to 1,800,000 Perpetrator, Ottoman Empire
Rwandan Genocide: 491,000 to 800,000 Perpetrator, Rwandan Interim Government
Greek Genocide: 300,000 to 900,000, Perpetrator Ottoman Empire
Dzungar genocide: 480,000 to 600,000, Perpetrator Qing Dynasty
Genocide in Bangladesh: 300,000 to 3,000,000, Perpetrator Pakistan

However by your logic The Germans, Cambodians, Russians, Turks, Rwandans, Chinese and Pakistani's should be removed from this earth as they have contributed nothing and have only harmed mankind.

See where i'm going?

emblem21 said:

I can see the benefit in this because really, they have become a little too proud and a little too willing to go to war for anything they want. Really, I wouldn't mind if they simply got rid of all the Anglos in the world at this point since they keep on playing themselves as heroes while behaving worse then villains right now. All that is needed is for a civil war/natural disaster and that will be the beginning of the end for all of these idiots, then we can watch this eyes get put out without mercy.

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I’ve given this done thought; any war between China and the Five Eyes is going to result in some world changing events comparable to the dissolution of the League of Nations and the fall of the soviet union.

The lands of the Anglos are forfeit in the case of a war and Chinese victory; i don't think anything less than the complete population transfer of non Chinese inhabitants of the Five Eyes back to the UK would suffice.
I believe that is more humane than the alternative which is an Anglo inspired process of genocide.

lucretius said:

Your advocating genocide?

Classy.

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Have you heard of what Anglo mouthpieces advocate for China, let alone Chinese people living in the West?

Personally, if i was involved in such a war i'd be going full on Ghengis Khan style, razing all major cities of the Five Eyes to pasture and ruins, killing all Anglo males above the age of 12, and castrating the rest and forcing them into gold and sulphur mines. The females to be sinocised and assimilated into the Chinese nation.
But that's only if i was already so traumatised from having to go to an Anglo instigated war.

hashtagpls said:

Have you heard of what Anglo mouthpieces advocate for China, let alone Chinese people living in the West?

Personally, if i was involved in such a war i'd be going full on Ghengis Khan style, razing all major cities of the Five Eyes to pasture and ruins, killing all Anglo males above the age of 12, and castrating the rest and forcing them into gold and sulphur mines. The females to be sinocised and assimilated into the Chinese nation.
But that's only if i was already so traumatised from having to go to an Anglo instigated war.

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So your a racist and a psychopath?

I live in the West. Most people are either ignorant or indifferent of China and generally think of it as the worlds factory with an oddball authoritarian government that likes a tight lid on it's people, building islands and pushing it's neighbors around.

Believe it or not, most people over here are not particularly bothered about war, other than they would rather the world had less of it.

lucretius said:

So your a racist and a psychopath?

I live in the West. Most people are either ignorant or indifferent of China and generally think of it as the worlds factory with an oddball authoritarian government that likes a tight lid on it's people, building islands and pushing it's neighbors around.

Believe it or not, most people over here are not particularly bothered about war, other than they would rather the world had less of it.

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An all of society challenge as advocated by Kiron Skinner and promoted by Navarro and pottinger and pompeo, requires an all of society response.

The USG advocated genocide and the impoverishment of Chinese people; pardon me if I don’t include a cherry on top when I plan out how to neutralise said threat.

lucretius said:

Believe it or not, most people over here are not particularly bothered about war, other than they would rather the world had less of it.

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If you live in the US, you tell this to your neighbors who are not bothered with wars how many lives were lost because of US freedom and democracy thing. You just start counting since the end of WW2.

lucretius said:

So your a racist and a psychopath?

I live in the West. Most people are either ignorant or indifferent of China and generally think of it as the worlds factory with an oddball authoritarian government that likes a tight lid on it's people, building islands and pushing it's neighbors around.

Believe it or not, most people over here are not particularly bothered about war, other than they would rather the world had less of it.

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And yet they do nothing but remain ignorant of the harm caused by the government. I would understand if they were misinformed to the extreme but with the level of racism in the USA. I have some serious doubts about that and since they have adopted a ‘I will hog the vaccines for myself while painting China as the devil for trying to help other nations’ mindset, well given how the USA has become worse and worse without a single thought of reflection, the USA deserves a catastrophe big enough to show the rest of there vasal states just how weak they really are along with how little they really do matter in the grand scheme of things (I mean isn’t the USA supposed to unite in the face of a crisis instead of going out to party and crying fake news all the time and then blaming China for everything like a two year old brat). The USA also recently is in a situation where they should be worrying about their people instead of trying to piss Russia and China and Iran off. If these nations end up giving the USA a solid ass kicking, I would definitely drink to that since they have absolutely lost All sympathy in my eyes for being as a whole a group of crazy racist killers who keep repeating the same mistake no matter how many time they are proven wrong. Kinda like the Bible when the Israelites keep pissing God off and we know how that all turned out

lucretius said:

Let me show you what genocide looks like.

The Holocaust: Est dead 5,750,000 to 6000,0000 Perpetrator, Nazi Germany
Nazi Polish Genocide: 1,800,000 to 3,000,000 Perpetrator, Nazi Germany
Cambodian Genocide: 1,386,734 to 3,000,000 Perpetrator, Communist Party of Kampuchea
Circassian genocide: 800,000 to 2,500,000 Perpetrator, Russian Empire
Armenian Genocide: 700,000 to 1,800,000 Perpetrator, Ottoman Empire
Rwandan Genocide: 491,000 to 800,000 Perpetrator, Rwandan Interim Government
Greek Genocide: 300,000 to 900,000, Perpetrator Ottoman Empire
Dzungar genocide: 480,000 to 600,000, Perpetrator Qing Dynasty
Genocide in Bangladesh: 300,000 to 3,000,000, Perpetrator Pakistan

However by your logic The Germans, Cambodians, Russians, Turks, Rwandans, Chinese and Pakistani's should be removed from this earth as they have contributed nothing and have only harmed mankind.

See where i'm going?

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All of those are horrible, but none of those are remotely comparable to what has happened in America. Take out the Nazis and they are basically between neighbouring tribes/ethnic groups. They've lived and co-existed for centuries. Sometimes one group had the upper hand sometimes it was the other.

The Holocaust was bad and probably the closest but it lasted 6 years and the Jews got Israel in the end. The American genocide started the day an Anglo set foot in America and continues to this day.

I'm not surprised that some Asian people feel the US is in the process of initiating an all out race war against Asians, centered around Chinese.

When right wing American politicians talk about all of society confrontation against Chinese, it can be interpreted as "we will use all of our resources to destroy you at any cost and will inspire others to attack you as well". The narrative of "we are against the CCP and not Chinese people" is finding less traction amongst Asians because the political actions say otherwise.

Other Asian looking people will be the collateral damage. The average right winger doesn't care about all the intracacies of the situation. Those that look a certain way are seen as guilty by association/appearance. It's part of why we see the large increase in anti-asian crime. Those that are disenfranchised (not necessarily right wing) in Western society are looking for a scapegoat to take out their personal frustrations on, the current American political narrative provides the justification.

A country like China who had the memory of the 8 nation alliance has its justifications in being suspicious of the politically motivated narratives perpetuated primarily by the US. Intentions are definitely not for the benefit of China. American neo cons are in the school of thought that Eurasia needs to be permanently divided and in perpetual warfare to maintain American primacy. China (among others) is seen as a country that should be divided and filled with internal conflict but its a nation that had been though many of these cycles and its leaders down the the people knows the consequences of division, thus American political motivations can be seen as potentially causing a genocide of Chinese people.

There has always been a balance of power between all the different peoples of the world. Especially in europe, whenever one society becomes too powerful the others gang up to keep it down.

America ruined that balance when they genocided an entire continent of people and created an empire without any feasible enemies to keep it down. That's how its shitty political system has been able to survive for 200 years, it doesn't face any external enemies. China is the one that could finally bring America down

lucretius said:

Let me show you what genocide looks like.

The Holocaust: Est dead 5,750,000 to 6000,0000 Perpetrator, Nazi Germany
Nazi Polish Genocide: 1,800,000 to 3,000,000 Perpetrator, Nazi Germany
Cambodian Genocide: 1,386,734 to 3,000,000 Perpetrator, Communist Party of Kampuchea
Circassian genocide: 800,000 to 2,500,000 Perpetrator, Russian Empire
Armenian Genocide: 700,000 to 1,800,000 Perpetrator, Ottoman Empire
Rwandan Genocide: 491,000 to 800,000 Perpetrator, Rwandan Interim Government
Greek Genocide: 300,000 to 900,000, Perpetrator Ottoman Empire
Dzungar genocide: 480,000 to 600,000, Perpetrator Qing Dynasty
Genocide in Bangladesh: 300,000 to 3,000,000, Perpetrator Pakistan

However by your logic The Germans, Cambodians, Russians, Turks, Rwandans, Chinese and Pakistani's should be removed from this earth as they have contributed nothing and have only harmed mankind.

See where i'm going?

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Are you implying what happened to the Native Americans wasn't a genocide?

Estimates put pre-Columbian population in the Americas at over 50 million. This collapsed to a few million by the 1600s. What the Europeans did in the Americas made the Nazis look like boy scouts.