Hong-Kong Protests
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Strange.
Im sure I came across a post where someone was corrected for using the term CCP instead of CPC and yet CPC is actually the Western Usage.?
I think it is premature to claim the protests are finished. I do see an exodus of some Hong Kong elites to Canada, Australia, UK, and the US. Not sure how many of those jobless radicals would leave or should I say meet the qualifications to seek refuge at 5 eyes nations or even Taiwan.
I still remember the umbrella movement and how it evolved into the Mong Kok riot and then now the 2019-20 protests. NSL is a powerful tool but without sequence drastic actions and reforms I am afraid the law itself can't stop the HK independent movement. Many oppositions such as Joshua Wong and Jimmy Lai are still watching and waiting to see if they could still regroup and reignite more protests and movement.
Carrie Lam tried to appease the oppositions and decided not to go after the Mong Kok rioters and their perpetrators before. It was a mistake. Therefore, this time they can't appease the oppositions again. Rioters need to pay for their crime. Instigators need to make an example of. The network of spies, traitors, and their supporters need to dismantle. Churches, media, schools, judicial, lawyers, doctors, nurses, teachers, government workers all should be scrutinized for using their positions to aid and instigate the riots.
I still remember the umbrella movement and how it evolved into the Mong Kok riot and then now the 2019-20 protests. NSL is a powerful tool but without sequence drastic actions and reforms I am afraid the law itself can't stop the HK independent movement. Many oppositions such as Joshua Wong and Jimmy Lai are still watching and waiting to see if they could still regroup and reignite more protests and movement.
Carrie Lam tried to appease the oppositions and decided not to go after the Mong Kok rioters and their perpetrators before. It was a mistake. Therefore, this time they can't appease the oppositions again. Rioters need to pay for their crime. Instigators need to make an example of. The network of spies, traitors, and their supporters need to dismantle. Churches, media, schools, judicial, lawyers, doctors, nurses, teachers, government workers all should be scrutinized for using their positions to aid and instigate the riots.
It should have done a long time ago but better late than never. One of the reasons why I don't think the protests are over is that I don't trust Carrie Lam. She is too weak.
Benny Tai: Hong Kong university fires professor who led protests
A leading Hong Kong university has fired its law professor, Benny Tai, due to a criminal conviction over his role in the 2014 pro-democracy protests.
Mr Tai, 56, accused the University of Hong Kong (HKU) of bowing to pressure from Beijing and said the ruling was "the end of academic freedom".
Mr Tai was one of the founders of the "umbrella protests" that paralysed Hong Kong's business districts for weeks.
Last year, a court sentenced him to 16 months in prison for his role.
He was granted bail in August, pending an appeal.
The 2014 protests, which were largely peaceful, lasted for more than 70 days as people took to the streets to call for democracy.
The university governing council's decision to dismiss Mr Tai goes against a previous ruling by its senate, which said while Mr Tai had committed misconduct, there were insufficient grounds to dismiss him.
According to local media, 18 members of the university's committee voted for his removal, with two against.
If he wishes to appeal the decision, he would have to either - Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam - or a judicial review, the South China Morning Post reports.
The decision to fire him was "made not by the University of Hong Kong but by an authority beyond the University through its agents," he said, adding "I am heartbroken to witness the demise of my beloved university."
The university said in a statement that it had "resolved a personnel issue concerning a teaching staff member" after a "stringent and impartial due process".
Meanwhile, the Hong Kong-Beijing Liaison Office, which represents Beijing's government in Hong Kong, welcomed his removal, saying: "The University of Hong Kong's decision to fire Benny Tai is a move that punishes evil and praises the virtuous."
Chinese state media has accused him of colluding with foreign forces and described him as a "hardcore troublemaker".
The university's ruling comes weeks after a , giving China more powers there.
The law criminalises secession, subversion and collusion with foreign forces, but critics say that the terms are vaguely defined and the law effectively curtails Hong Kong's freedoms.
It also comes amid local media reports that elections to Hong Kong's parliament - the Legislative Council - could be postponed by a year. News outlets HK01, Hong Kong Economic Times and TVB said the government had made the decision, which is yet to be formally announced, due to coronavirus concerns.
Mr Tai has been accused by the Hong Kong-Beijing Liaison Office of trying to launch a revolution. , which attracted hundreds of thousands of voters.
Benny Tai: Hong Kong university fires professor who led protests
A leading Hong Kong university has fired its law professor, Benny Tai, due to a criminal conviction over his role in the 2014 pro-democracy protests.
Mr Tai, 56, accused the University of Hong Kong (HKU) of bowing to pressure from Beijing and said the ruling was "the end of academic freedom".
Mr Tai was one of the founders of the "umbrella protests" that paralysed Hong Kong's business districts for weeks.
Last year, a court sentenced him to 16 months in prison for his role.
He was granted bail in August, pending an appeal.
The 2014 protests, which were largely peaceful, lasted for more than 70 days as people took to the streets to call for democracy.
The university governing council's decision to dismiss Mr Tai goes against a previous ruling by its senate, which said while Mr Tai had committed misconduct, there were insufficient grounds to dismiss him.
According to local media, 18 members of the university's committee voted for his removal, with two against.
If he wishes to appeal the decision, he would have to either - Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam - or a judicial review, the South China Morning Post reports.
The decision to fire him was "made not by the University of Hong Kong but by an authority beyond the University through its agents," he said, adding "I am heartbroken to witness the demise of my beloved university."
The university said in a statement that it had "resolved a personnel issue concerning a teaching staff member" after a "stringent and impartial due process".
Meanwhile, the Hong Kong-Beijing Liaison Office, which represents Beijing's government in Hong Kong, welcomed his removal, saying: "The University of Hong Kong's decision to fire Benny Tai is a move that punishes evil and praises the virtuous."
Chinese state media has accused him of colluding with foreign forces and described him as a "hardcore troublemaker".
The university's ruling comes weeks after a , giving China more powers there.
The law criminalises secession, subversion and collusion with foreign forces, but critics say that the terms are vaguely defined and the law effectively curtails Hong Kong's freedoms.
It also comes amid local media reports that elections to Hong Kong's parliament - the Legislative Council - could be postponed by a year. News outlets HK01, Hong Kong Economic Times and TVB said the government had made the decision, which is yet to be formally announced, due to coronavirus concerns.
Mr Tai has been accused by the Hong Kong-Beijing Liaison Office of trying to launch a revolution. , which attracted hundreds of thousands of voters.
The official usage is CPC. But it is very interchangeable. Particularly if you are Chinese. Chinese will said in Mandarin and Cantonese as China communist party. Therefore CCP.
It really is splitting hair. I think it doesn't matter one iota.
@KYli
I posted this few post back. It is good to know people are paying notice. Not having a go. Just saying. Regards
Well, the NSL certainly have to be enforced to be effective. It's almost certain that at least a small portion of the rioters whom the law scattered will eventually regroup and try their luck again; the Hong Kong government will have to make an example of them. But it's much more important that those who fund and direct these riots be held accountable under the law.
Having said that, I'm hopeful the disgusting spectacles of the recent past are well and truly over in Hong Kong.
That was then, this is now. I'm quite certain that the events of 2019 have caused Beijing to take a much firmer hand in Hong Kong, and if Carrie Lam wasn't on board with this new direction then I'm sure she would have been replaced. That she wasn't means she'll do as she's told.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
It’s mostly because of American propaganda and mental conditioning.
America spend decades brainwashing its populous to develop an almost instinctive distrust and hatred of all things ‘communist’ during its Cold War with the USSR, which was also know as the CCCP. Thus referring to China as the CCP was a way to easily bridge that existing mental conditioning and apply it to China after the USSR collapsed.
Think of CCCP/CCP as the ‘would you kindly’ trigger words of the real world for an unbelievably large number of Americans even today.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Attorney General William Barr was being questioned by Congress and he said there's no such thing as peaceful resistance...
Anyway in other news:
Hong Kong elections: activist Joshua Wong pledges to stop asking US for sanctions on city in bid to save Legislative Council candidacy
The co-founder of the now-defunct localist party Demosisto also rejected suggestions that he had invited foreign interference to pressure Hong Kong and Beijing, accusing an electoral officer of trying to cook up charges related to national security and block his candidacy.
Wong said he had only meant to push for the international community to support China in the implementation of the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration, which paved the way for Hong Kong’s return to Chinese rule in 1997.
Errrr...
Hong Kong activists testify on Capitol Hill, urge Congress to pass Bill
The activists repeatedly called on congressmen to pass the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act, which would require Washington to annually assess the city's special status under American law and allow it to sanction leaders who undermine Hong Kong's democracy.
Hong Kong elections: activist Joshua Wong pledges to stop asking US for sanctions on city in bid to save Legislative Council candidacy
The co-founder of the now-defunct localist party Demosisto also rejected suggestions that he had invited foreign interference to pressure Hong Kong and Beijing, accusing an electoral officer of trying to cook up charges related to national security and block his candidacy.
Wong said he had only meant to push for the international community to support China in the implementation of the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration, which paved the way for Hong Kong’s return to Chinese rule in 1997.
Errrr...
Hong Kong activists testify on Capitol Hill, urge Congress to pass Bill
The activists repeatedly called on congressmen to pass the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act, which would require Washington to annually assess the city's special status under American law and allow it to sanction leaders who undermine Hong Kong's democracy.
Who will trust Hypocrites such as him?
Hong Kong protests: lawmaker Cheng Chung-tai apologises for turning flags upside down in Legco chamber in 2016
The Civic Passion member is seeking re-election in the coming Legco polls
In a letter to electoral official, Cheng also promises to ‘make amends’
A Hong Kong opposition lawmaker, who was found guilty of desecrating the national flag during protest antics in the legislature, has offered an apology and promised to “make amends” as authorities are vetting his candidacy bid for the coming Legislative Council elections.
Cheng Chung-tai of localist party Civic Passion said in a letter to an electoral official that he had reflected on his antics since the court case, realising it was wrong and that he had since been upholding the Basic Law and showing respect for the national flag.
Cheng is seeking re-election in New Territories West constituency in the Legco polls, expected to be held on September 6.
Hong Kong protests: lawmaker Cheng Chung-tai apologises for turning flags upside down in Legco chamber in 2016
The Civic Passion member is seeking re-election in the coming Legco polls
In a letter to electoral official, Cheng also promises to ‘make amends’
A Hong Kong opposition lawmaker, who was found guilty of desecrating the national flag during protest antics in the legislature, has offered an apology and promised to “make amends” as authorities are vetting his candidacy bid for the coming Legislative Council elections.
Cheng Chung-tai of localist party Civic Passion said in a letter to an electoral official that he had reflected on his antics since the court case, realising it was wrong and that he had since been upholding the Basic Law and showing respect for the national flag.
Cheng is seeking re-election in New Territories West constituency in the Legco polls, expected to be held on September 6.