Even at the height of HK riots, there was very little support for independence. Surveys at the time showed that only 15-20 % were in favour of it.
Hong-Kong Protests
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The loudest ones wanted to grab white man's attention so of course outside people think they are the majority.
Hong Kong has stabilized very quickly despite the double hits from foreign sanctions and the pandemic. It wouldn't be able to do that with a "seething" population.
I fully concur with your take based on my anecdotal experience from dating HK ladies, and from acquaintances. They all thought they were better than mainland Chinese, and loved to deride them as uncouth and filthy.
Speaking as an immediate descendant of HKers, having grown up with and around upper-middle class HKer immigrants and their kids, I can confirm that most HKers are intolerable. Their customer service quality also scrapes the bottom of the barrel, and I wouldn't lose any sleep or shed a single tear if a nuke was accidentally dropped on that island.
You grew up around upper-middle class HK immigrants and you conclude "most" of Hong Kong are intolerable.
I have HK relatives from both parents from HK and I would agree that my rich relatives from 1 side are somewhat aloof and have a sense of superiority. They would consider their heavily Cantonese accented English superior to our Singlish. That does not represent most of HK.
Whereas my other relatives are awed by Singapore's development and impressed with how we command so many dialects and languages.
I would say most crowded city dwellers around the world suffer some sort of rat race mentality and sense of superiority.
No difference in HK.
Some people in Beijing are also not so friendly to their fellows from Harbin and the North East.
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While there are exceptions. I do agree with most of what you are saying. HK ladies specially are mostly intolerable, They have dual personalities dealing with westerners and everyone else. I was treated as a westerner but I can see how they treat those who they deem below them.
plawolf
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You are mixing up different points of law. Yes, the Canadian police does not have jurisdiction to prosecute for crimes committed abroad (somewhat, but let’s not get into that complex legal minefield here), but as an employee, you would have signed a contract with a clause to allow the employer to terminate your employment if you did anything illegal or brought the employer into disrepute. Government employees would normally have tighter regulations in this regard.
So, if you got involved in illegal rioting abroad while being an active reservist and made international news, at a minimum you can expect to have your reservists status terminated. Failure of the armed forces to take any action is effectively condoning your actions through their own inaction, which opens them up to accusations of your rioting being approved if not outright ordered by the chain of command, and they would know that, which is why if such extracurricular activities were not sponsored, governments tend to throw the book and then some at the offenders to prove beyond doubt that they weren’t involved.
As a HKer, I wouldn't be so fast with assigning blame. The city of HK is a key area in the country, sure not all people who live in it deserve to continue live there, but then we should only specifically point them out and sanction them.
Is other parts of China also not able to produce evil too? How many people did enemy sponsored terrorists and rioters kill in HK, vs how many did Islamic state and their sponsors kill in the west of the country?
I'm all for arresting and punishing criminals and traitors under the maximum extent of law, but I don't condemn an entire region arbitrarily. America wants to damage HK precisely because as one of China's many top cities, we are a threat to them.
Fair enough. This is just a case of familiarity breeds contempt.
Everything you said is correct.
However, the original point was trying to connect two morons directly to Zelensky, or being "sent by the country".
I was saying that is a total stretch.
Sometimes being a sh*thead, is just being a sh*thead, and not a secret mission to massacre HKPF officers and galvanize the HK independence movement.