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Hong-Kong Protests
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plawolf
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China really should give all the western politicians who passed laws to support HK rioters moving abroad a medal, because they have probably helped raise the IQ of HK by a statistically significant margin after all the rioting used condoms have ejected themselves voluntarily.
The only thing that could have made it better is if China had immediately invalidated their HK residency and Chinese citizenship so they cannot come crawling back. Get out and stay out! No backsies!
The only thing that could have made it better is if China had immediately invalidated their HK residency and Chinese citizenship so they cannot come crawling back. Get out and stay out! No backsies!
Hokkien is a Guangdong language now???
When did southern Fujian province get absorbed into Guangdong? I thought I would've seen this in the news. Are they going to rename the carrier now?
Is Chinese usage in Singapore uncommon now? When I went like 200 years ago, I could easily find people that spoke in Cantonese.
Anyone who thinks having shitty Chinese in a majority Chinese country is due for a reality check at some point in their life. They will soon find their most commonly used English phrase will be "Would you like to make that a combo for $3 more?".
Please make the distinction between the younger generation and older generation before posting your trite again.
And now a monkey pox as well.
I guess the humor was not as obvious as I thought.
1. Pointing out that Hokkien is Southern Min (Fujian), not from Guangdong
I am actually asking what is considered the older generation? Born before 1985? Born before 1975?
Was it in 80's that Singapore instituted "Learn Mandarin" program to try to unify different dialect speakers? I think at the time Chinese language education was compulsory for all ethnic Chinese right? Is that no longer the case?
Finally, as the economy of China grows, obviously overseas Chinese will be an important conduit to conduct business locally. If a Singaporean Chinese is relishing their Chinese illiteracy and inarticulation, then they will suffer the consequences of their choices. Really, no one should celebrate their lack of skill in anything because it shows a distinct lack of desire to improve. Really reminds me of the strange anti-intellectualism that exists in North American culture. Somehow being ignorant and provincial is something to be proud of.
After we Guangdongese ate all the Fujianese
I am a SG citizen who has served conscription here and is now working here. The Mandarin proficiency among zoomers (1997+) is atrocious. I have no idea how it is so bad considering kids here go through 2 years of compulsory Mandarin classes in junior college. Probably because they are inundated by western pop culture, media, and propaganda. I studied in Australia and Canada with no Mandarin classes and my Mandarin is somehow better. Hokkien proficiency is basically nil. 80s was quite a while ago now.
Kind of a complicated question if you think about it.
Could be an unintended consequence of the "Learn Mandarin" initiative. Essentially trying to force an "alien" language onto people who did not speak this at home.
Argument against this, the PRC government precisely did this to a lot more people. Clearly it stuck.
Inundation of western culture and media should be more pervasive in HK being a colony until 1997, yet Cantonese is still the predominant lingua franca there. In fact, my personal feeling is that English skill is quite bad in HK considering the long colonial period.
Could be because the primary medium of education is still Cantonese.
My uni classmate from SG also served his NS time before going to school in Canada. He sounds like the opposite of what you describe because he spoke Mandarin with Mainlanders, Canto with the HKers, and Hokkien with his SEA cohorts from Indo and Malaysia. However, his Cantonese was, by his description, "worse than yours", myself being a CBC. I guess his kind is extinct now, of course we are not "zoomers".
So personal anecdote here. When we were growing up in Australia, during late primary school myself and a fair few 1st generation ABC's were enrolled in Chinese classes for around 3-6 months.
During those classes, we paid attention but did not treat it as seriously as 'real' school, as our parents did not really enforce getting good grades in Chinese school. To them it was just a great extra curricular activity.
As a result, 6 months later, we learnt practically nothing.
I don't know how seriously the compulsory mandarin classes are taken (by the parents) in Singapore, but if it is seen as 'non essential' then that's where the problem lies.