Hong-Kong Protests

Strangelove

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Wow, just wow, no words...
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I was just there tonight, had dinner with a friend in Causeway Bay, and walked to the scene of the attack, the police presence was HEAVY, and by evening most cockroach mourners were gone, likely scared away by the intense police presence. But these mourners and online supporters need to be detained and investigated.

Just a few days before, cops raided an apartment with bomb making material, two amateurs were arrested.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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As a logical person, it is difficult for me to buy into the BRITAIN WAS SO GOOD TO US mantra. Maybe because I did not live there myself, I don't understand?

As I mentioned, I'm not naive, people will get violent, extremely violent, that's not the surprise. A lone wolf attacker is not the surprise either. What I don't understand is how the younger generation (I am assuming most of the flower bearers are younger people) can just so easily radicalized.

- The CCP did not drone attack Jimmy Lai's birthday party and kill 20 of his family members along with him.
- Anyone 40 and under did not meaningfully live under the colonial system, yet 1/3 of the arrested protestors were minors
- HKPF are not choking protestors to death

So basically the entire generation has been raised in a sort of semi-religious fervor? Did PRC really miss the establishment of American Madrassas on their own soil?
To answer your question, yes due to Hong Kong originally being the main financial center of China. The Chinese government was worried about losing Hong Kong since they didn’t have any alternatives during the late 90’s and early 2000’s. Hence they didn’t interfere. That is why this cultish anti mainlander mentality is so strong to this day. Nowadays, there are alternatives to Hong Kong like Shanghai and Shenzhen. So the central government can be much more harsh to those terrorists.
 

KYli

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People gathering to mourn a terrorist?
At this point a significant section of HKrs are extremely radicalised. I have no doubt in my mind that if provided with arms, these terrorists would go on a mass shooting spree in HK. The level of hate spewed on online forums, fb etc against China, Mainlanders, police is mind boggling. And western social media companies are aiding and abetting it.

Successive Chinese leaders ignored the growing radicalisation of HK and only Xi had the courage to go ahead and crush these nefarious elements. It'll take atleast a decade or more to completely cleanse HK . The radicalisation is too deep.
They don't have the gut to do an uprising. The US has provided many guns and explosive to them but most of them ended up using to blow up a few public toilets. I think the biggest mistake by the DPP and CIA is overestimated these guys. They would flee rather than stay behind to fight. The only problem is the few lone wolf type.
 

steel21

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They don't have the gut to do an uprising. The US has provided many guns and explosive to them but most of them ended up using to blow up a few public toilets. I think the biggest mistake by the DPP and CIA is overestimated these guys. They would flee rather than stay behind to fight. The only problem is the few lone wolf type.
These guys would also have to really look out for infiltration.

The separated decentralized model also assures there are no redundant validation of those you are working with are not collaborators working against you.

Think about it. If you are one of these roaches, there is no one you can turn to validate your partner, his/her experiences or current standing.

If you read between the line, that is how quite of few of these cells has been caught, through informers.
 

supersnoop

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To answer your question, yes due to Hong Kong originally being the main financial center of China. The Chinese government was worried about losing Hong Kong since they didn’t have any alternatives during the late 90’s and early 2000’s. Hence they didn’t interfere. That is why this cultish anti mainlander mentality is so strong to this day. Nowadays, there are alternatives to Hong Kong like Shanghai and Shenzhen. So the central government can be much more harsh to those terrorists.
Of course I know that part, as I mentioned, my family background is from HK, so I'm totally familiar with the mentality.

However, think about this, you had 20 years of peace, what changed? I'm not talking about western BS like "rights being taken away", I mean actual pre-extradition bill changes?

The only thing I can think of is the housing becoming more unaffordable, however this is a problem in many major metropolitan areas, doesn't really explain the extreme radicalization going on.

It is almost like HK and Xinjiang are mirrors (replace Islam with Democracy). You hear a lot of commentary that Xinjiang was just a regular place, peaceful life until the 2014 train station terror attack. It was after that incident when all the deradicalization and heavy security presence was implemented.

Part of the government deradicalization effort is to increase the economic opportunities for young people. Is this what is missing in HK? Do they really need the current education system to be completely torn down?

I've always said, looking beyond HK, radical movements seem to be taking hold across the world. Would we ever have imagined something like the Jan. 6 riot in DC? Charlottesville white supremacist rally? Today in Canada they tore down statues of Queen Victoria and Elizabeth (coincidentally HK cockroaches cheer on the old lady waving a British flag). Obviously the reasons are different in each place, but it is hard to stomach the thought of American operatives trying to drag HK down into the gutter with them.
 

Gatekeeper

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It is true to a certain extent that the NSL is heavy handed, but it's not like anyone executing Jimmy Lai here

Your post here suggest you too have been accepting the western propaganda narratives without realising it.

The national security law is no more heavy handed than all the western national security law. If anything it is less heavy handed. Go look it up. In the UK for instant, you just go out in the street and shout the queen is a wxxxer. See how long you will last before being arrested.

***Hong Kong terrorism***
On July 1st, a policeman was stabbed in Hong Kong. The terrorist killed himself right after.
Some protesters are glorifying this terrorist act.
In France, glorifying terrorism is called "apology of terrorism" and people face jail time under France's strict National security law.
Hong Kong National Security Law is way too lenient

However, think about this, you had 20 years of peace, what changed? I'm not talking about western BS like "rights being taken away", I mean actual pre-extradition bill changes?

The only thing I can think of is the housing becoming more unaffordable, however this is a problem in many major metropolitan areas, doesn't really explain the extreme radicalization going on.

It is almost like HK and Xinjiang are mirrors (replace Islam with Democracy). You hear a lot of commentary that Xinjiang was just a regular place, peaceful life until the 2014 train station terror attack. It was after that incident when all the deradicalization and heavy security presence was implemented.

Part of the government deradicalization effort is to increase the economic opportunities for young people. Is this what is missing in HK? Do they really need the current education system to be completely torn down?

I've always said, looking beyond HK, radical movements seem to be taking hold across the world. Would we ever have imagined something like the Jan. 6 riot in DC? Charlottesville white supremacist rally? Today in Canada they tore down statues of Queen Victoria and Elizabeth (coincidentally HK cockroaches cheer on the old lady waving a British flag). Obviously the reasons are different in each place, but it is hard to stomach the thought of American operatives trying to drag HK down into the gutter with them.

I appreciate your family is from hong kong. But where as I was born and bred in Hong kong. Anti China feelings have always been strong from the "immigrants" (Not the indigenous people there who had fought British rule every inch of the way on their own) because they all have lost everything when they fled China. This hatred was strong and this was handed down from one generation to another. This coupled with religious "education" and CIA NED exploiting that. And bingo, you got the perfect powderkeg.

When I was a kid. These "immigrants " always celebrate KMT national day with enthusiasm.

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On the side note. I was brought up in an estate just like this one in the pic.
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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Of course I know that part, as I mentioned, my family background is from HK, so I'm totally familiar with the mentality.

However, think about this, you had 20 years of peace, what changed? I'm not talking about western BS like "rights being taken away", I mean actual pre-extradition bill changes?

The only thing I can think of is the housing becoming more unaffordable, however this is a problem in many major metropolitan areas, doesn't really explain the extreme radicalization going on.

It is almost like HK and Xinjiang are mirrors (replace Islam with Democracy). You hear a lot of commentary that Xinjiang was just a regular place, peaceful life until the 2014 train station terror attack. It was after that incident when all the deradicalization and heavy security presence was implemented.

Part of the government deradicalization effort is to increase the economic opportunities for young people. Is this what is missing in HK? Do they really need the current education system to be completely torn down?

I've always said, looking beyond HK, radical movements seem to be taking hold across the world. Would we ever have imagined something like the Jan. 6 riot in DC? Charlottesville white supremacist rally? Today in Canada they tore down statues of Queen Victoria and Elizabeth (coincidentally HK cockroaches cheer on the old lady waving a British flag). Obviously the reasons are different in each place, but it is hard to stomach the thought of American operatives trying to drag HK down into the gutter with them.
You actually should askd how Chinese Mainlanders feel or felt about Hong Kong prior to all the massive riots of 2014 and then 2019. Even better, ask any of these pro-terrorist, pro-separatist supporters from Hong Kong what, how, they view not just the government of China but the people from China, you will find your answers to your questions. I dated a couple of people that were recent Hong Kong emigrant way back in 2008 who were spouting and spewing hateful messages against China and Chinese people seeing us as locusts, pests, dirty, obnoxious, uncouth, something that they desperately don't want to be associated ever. These nutjobs saw and see Chinese people as "others" it's the intense westernization of their world views from culture to politics, religion (Christianity hence the martyrdom complex) the mindsets of most Hong Kongers have unfortunately been reduced to accepting fully the superiority of the Anglo-Saxon established doctrines.
 

plawolf

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Of course I know that part, as I mentioned, my family background is from HK, so I'm totally familiar with the mentality.

However, think about this, you had 20 years of peace, what changed? I'm not talking about western BS like "rights being taken away", I mean actual pre-extradition bill changes?

The only thing I can think of is the housing becoming more unaffordable, however this is a problem in many major metropolitan areas, doesn't really explain the extreme radicalization going on.

It is almost like HK and Xinjiang are mirrors (replace Islam with Democracy). You hear a lot of commentary that Xinjiang was just a regular place, peaceful life until the 2014 train station terror attack. It was after that incident when all the deradicalization and heavy security presence was implemented.

Part of the government deradicalization effort is to increase the economic opportunities for young people. Is this what is missing in HK? Do they really need the current education system to be completely torn down?

I've always said, looking beyond HK, radical movements seem to be taking hold across the world. Would we ever have imagined something like the Jan. 6 riot in DC? Charlottesville white supremacist rally? Today in Canada they tore down statues of Queen Victoria and Elizabeth (coincidentally HK cockroaches cheer on the old lady waving a British flag). Obviously the reasons are different in each place, but it is hard to stomach the thought of American operatives trying to drag HK down into the gutter with them.
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Gatekeeper

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My simplify Chinese is not up to it in afraid. Can anyone translate what this said about the vitasoy company?

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I think this was the offending statement from Vitasoy.

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How stupid can they be. Over 70% of their sales revenue comes from China.

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Lastly, please don't forget not to paint all Hong Kongers (me included) as brain washed anti CCP. This is propaganda painted by the western MSM. At best, these used condoms are a "large" minority. But a minority nonetheless.

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