Hong-Kong Protests

localizer said:

Bro how you type so much lol. And you take things too srsly.

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I wasn't aware I shouldn't take your posts seriously. After all, this is a serious topic.

That’s the Chinese way since the beginning. Ride or die.

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That's simply not true historically. There's been a long traditional of peaceful petitioning, protesting and seeking to change the system by participating in it.

(Or is this another comment I shouldn't be taking seriously? I'm very confused!)

Bet the youth gang is doing bioterrorism now and having covid parties.

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Yes, because HK government incompetence re border control and screening definitely wasn't the problem.


"Jin Dongyan, a professor at the School of Biomedical Sciences at the University of Hong Kong, suggested that the strain of coronavirus detected in Hong Kong may be from Europe or the US.

Hong Kong is now being hit by the third wave of the coronavirus, and it experienced a second wave in late February from a strain from Europe and the US. Jin said he believes this virus may be the same strain the city saw during the second wave.

According to data from Friday to Sunday, most cases reported in the new wave in Hong Kong were not imported. On Sunday, there were 8 imported cases out of 38 newly confirmed cases, followed by 12 imported infections out of 28 on Saturday and 6 out of 38 Friday.

"It's probably because there were some flaws in border procedures in Hong Kong, and some patients from overseas may have brought the virus to communities which resulted in the current local transmission," Jin noted."

KYli said:

Most of the wealthy and elites in HK have foreign passports. Moving to Ireland for what, most of Hong Kong People would not find a decent jobs in Ireland. As for the elites that who decide to move out of HK, most of them acknowledged they would never get a job with similar pay due to the fact that they don't have connection in other countries. They are nobody. For average HK people, most of them would go back to Guangdong for retirement. some would go to Taiwan and the rest probably Southeast Asia.

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How will they get their Filipina maids in there or will they exploit Irish women...? And then Irish men will march into town with pitchforks and torches and wipe them out. The Chinese Exclusion Act in the US was started by the Irish in the US who charged Chinese were stealing their jobs. Ever since I was a kid, I would hear people complain about Chinatowns and Asian supermarkets. Why? Because Asians are supposed to make white people money. Having their own stores was making other Asians rich not white people so they saw it as unpatriotic. It also meant Asians were creating jobs for themselves and not taking away jobs from white people but noooooo, they still want to complain. It's called looking for an excuse to hate. Traditional Chinatowns were the ghettos where Chinese were only allowed to live and now they're angry because they exist. It's the Chinese that don't want to assimilate. They always find an excuse to hate.

Back in my activists days, people who claim to be of Irish heritage would tell me how Irish people were treated like dirt to counter me. And I said, "What are you telling me for? Go blame the British". Asians didn't do anything to the Irish yet in his own hierarchy of his mind he's saying that the Irish are more important victims so I should shut up. I don't know if people in Ireland are like the Irish in the US but when you see Connor McGregor... A bunch of snobby Hong Kongers in Ireland aren't going to last long. There's no China there to make money for the UK so they'll be taking their jobs. Maybe Hong Kongers are so arrogant they think they'll still have access to China after biting the hand that feeds them. The only Hong Kongers that would be in this city are haters of Chinese.

Mr T said:

Oh, what a surprise. The [Hong Kong] Opposition candidates got banned from running, regardless of what they said in their letters to the HK government. So the letters really were just a formality, and it had already been decided to block them - beacuse they might win, and we can't have the pro-CCP establishment losing their majority in an open election, now can we?

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Plenty of opposition candidates will be running in future Hong Kong elections. Only those paid by foreigners (i.e. by the US) will be banned.

localizer said:

Bro how you type so much lol. And you take things too srsly.

It you gonna do a violent revolution then again push to the end.

That’s the Chinese way since the beginning. Ride or die.

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Bet the youth gang is doing bioterrorism now and having covid parties.

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Nah...will US government allow candidates that are openly working to promote the interest of a foreign entity( and to destabilise USA) to get in the Senate ?

If not, why the double standard ?

Mr T said:

The HK Civic Party is Al-Qaeda now? Alvin Yeung is a sitting member of LegCo and even he's had his registration blocked by the HK government.



There's no mention of criminal activity, suspected or proven, disbarring a person from running for office in the US.

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But my guess is that an active member of the KKK or a neo-Nazi would struggle to get elected based on a decision of their constituents, as opposed to being stopped from participating in the election by the US government.

Also, fun fact, Sinn Fein - which was/is the political wing of the IRA - is not only a legal party in Northern Ireland and the UK, it's part of the Northern Ireland government despite the fact it advocates for Northern Ireland breaking away from the UK.

It also regularly contests national UK elections (and wins seats), despite the fact that they refuse to take the oath of allegience. They can't take the UK seats because they won't take the oath, but they're not stopped from running for office. They're also free to take the oath at any time and take their seats in Parliament. Their failure to take the oath at a time designated by the UK government doesn't invalidate them winning seats.

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So? That is the standard deemed acceptable by you perhaps, why do you keep attempting to impose it upon a 1.4+b population that see sovereign unity as their main concern?

My suggestion is that China build-up Shenzhen and Shanghai, let Hong Kong slowly decline into economic irrelevance.
Even if it means extending SAR status for multiple cycles of 50-years until 2247 (yes, 200 years more) until the current HK youth generation (and their offsprings) dies off. The next generation will increasingly lose the 'colonial mindset' and 'West worshiping' tendencies, which would greatly facilitate it normalizing as a Chinese city.
Let those HKers who wish to emigrate leave HK. China should allow HKers to more freely and easily move in and out of mainland China into Shenzhen and partake in China's growth.
Extend the SAR system until the Taiwan Question is resolved. Don't let foreigners take advantage of the weak link (HK) to destabilize China.

Sincerely,
US-HK citizen

hullopilllw said:

So? That is the standard deemed acceptable by you perhaps, why do you keep attempting to impose it upon a 1.4+b population that see sovereign unity as their main concern?

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I've seen more than one post here saying "no other country would allow this". I'm just pointing out that pro-independence parties are legal in some other countries, even if they refuse to take any necessary oath and don't take their seats.

If China wants to be different, sure. But don't pretend anyone is asking it to do something impossible elsewhere.

Nutrient said:

Plenty of opposition candidates will be running in future Hong Kong elections.

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Except that as things stand the pro-CCP establishment would retain their majority because they'd have walk-over elections where the Opposition candidates were blocked from running. I know that the CCP expects their allies to retain their majority because the functional constituencies give them lots of extra seats, but the Opposition have to theoretically be able to win. If they're stopped from contesting winnable seats then you might as well not bother with elections anymore.

Let's see if the Opposition have enough time to register new candidates, or if they get disqualified as well for filing their papers 30 seconds too late, or because the HK government objects to how they tie their shoes.

Only those paid by foreigners (i.e. by the US) will be banned.

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Better call the HK Bar Association and tell them that Alvin Yeung is a foreign agent. Oh, sorry, they'd want evidence to back up that claim, not wechat posts.

plawolf said:

This is another idiotic vanity trait that HK ‘localists’ share with white racial-supremacists - that they irrationally believe they are inherently ‘superior’ merely for being borne where they were.

HK is only relevant because of China.

In terms of trade, the west only use HK to access the mainland market; in terms of politics, HK traitors are only getting western support because hostile western powers want to weaken and damage China; in terms of finance HK is only important because it is a convenient meeting place between Chinese and westerners.

Everything that makes HK special is, at is core, directly related and dependent on China.

Without China, HK is nothing special and HKers who move out of HK is worse than the large numbers of existing Chinese ethnic migrants already in western countries.

If anyone is stupid enough to build a mini-HK in Europe, and the kinds of traitors that would be attracted by the Western immigration offers do move in, it won’t be long before that becomes a racially segregated ghetto much like the worst parts of American inner cities. With zero prospect; minimal and low level jobs; high crime rates and woeful public services.

I hope this project does go ahead and the HK rioters all move in ASAP. It can be their own, self-made concentration camp and serves as a monument to their stupidity and hubris.

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Let us not forget how Hong Kong came about the first place. But instead of listening to me a "obviously five wumao". Listen to this lady.


What a beautiful poster with these "traitor" disqualified together. Pay no mind to what ever propaganda certain members put on here. "Democracy and freedom". Every where you go there are banned parties. Our friend is trying to spin it as isn't so. Some extreme right wing party and Islamic party are banned in the UK.



When you run around supporting rioters,, then claimed foul when disqualified. Gee

Mr T said:

The HK Civic Party is Al-Qaeda now? Alvin Yeung is a sitting member of LegCo and even he's had his registration blocked by the HK government.



There's no mention of criminal activity, suspected or proven, disbarring a person from running for office in the US.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

But my guess is that an active member of the KKK or a neo-Nazi would struggle to get elected based on a decision of their constituents, as opposed to being stopped from participating in the election by the US government.

Also, fun fact, Sinn Fein - which was/is the political wing of the IRA - is not only a legal party in Northern Ireland and the UK, it's part of the Northern Ireland government despite the fact it advocates for Northern Ireland breaking away from the UK.

It also regularly contests national UK elections (and wins seats), despite the fact that they refuse to take the oath of allegience. They can't take the UK seats because they won't take the oath, but they're not stopped from running for office. They're also free to take the oath at any time and take their seats in Parliament. Their failure to take the oath at a time designated by the UK government doesn't invalidate them winning seats.

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Yes Mr T
However Northern Ireland also had Combat Troops on the Streets, Army Check Points, Army Watch Towers, Walled off Streets/Community Segregation and as close to a state of Martial Law in all but name that we have seen on UK territory since WW2.
Would Hong Kongers think that such a situation there, would be a price worth paying to allow a few hot heads to run for political office?

SampanViking said:

Yes Mr T
However Northern Ireland also had Combat Troops on the Streets, Army Check Points, Army Watch Towers, Walled off Streets/Community Segregation and as close to a state of Martial Law in all but name that we have seen on UK territory since WW2.
Would Hong Kongers think that such a situation there, would be a price worth paying to allow a few hot heads to run for political office?

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Well said Viking, I couldn't put it better myself. It is funny how one can see only one side of the story all the time, and try to defend the indefensible.

If Hong Kong politicians are peaceful and DEFEND the law (not just staying silent or even condoning the actions of law breakers) not putting Hong Kong's well being in jeopardys (as shown in the airport demonstration and the economic chaos that bought). Not going to visit foreign countries to garner support for their activities that undermined their own citizen (as the sanctions by the USA is clearly to hurt Hong Kong's economy.

But after doing everything to undermine and hurt Hong Kong. These same politicians now writes a letter to say we repent. Please let us participate in the coming election. So soon after what happened in the past year is hardly surprising that they got disqualified.

And people here claimed that is unfair, well tell that to "uncle Law" who got stone to death. The guy got set on fire. Or even to the lost eye girl who refused to have her medical made available to the police! Guess what, life is unfair. Most of us learned that at a very young age. So its about time some of us learn to live with it.