Hong Kong....Occupy Central Demonstrations....

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Its called assaulting a Police Officer in this country and will lead you to a fine or jail sentence. Under many circumstances probably a full fist in the face as well for your trouble!

Don't believe me? try it!

yeah even in Czech Rep. (a country very sensitive about Police interfering with Demonstrations --
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) from time to time Hooligans (soccer "fans") or Techno Dancers get beaten after they made their choice (like trespassing on somebody's meadow with the intent to dance there for like 50 hours, and shouting "Gestapo!" at Riot Police :)
 

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US has long history of supporting various terrorists and extremists like Bin Laden (was working for CIA) and ISIS. Now US wants to turn China into another Afganistan, Iraq, Libya, Ukraine or Syria:
Entire Occupy Central Protest Scripted in Washington
Protest co-organizer Martin Lee sets stage, introduces “Occupy Central” characters in April 2014 talk before US State Department’s National Endowment for Democracy.
Tony Cartalucci (LD) : The slogans, leaders, and agenda of the “Occupy Central” movement are supposedly the manifestations of Hong Kong’s desire for “total democracy,” “universal suffrage,” and “freedom.” In reality, the leaders of “Occupy Central” are verified to be directly backed, funded, and directed by the US State Department, its National Endowment for Democracy (NED), and its subsidiary, the National Democratic Institute (NDI).
espite admitting this overwhelming evidence, many “Occupy Central” supporters still insist the protests are genuine and now some propose that the “Occupy Central” leadership does not truly represent the people of Hong Kong.

While the leadership of “Occupy Central” indeed in no way represent the people of Hong Kong, the fact still remains that the protest itself was prearranged at least as early as April 2014, revealed by “Occupy Central” co-organizers Martin Lee and Anson Chan before NED in Washington DC.

[video=youtube;Xfr481R8ZnU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfr481R8ZnU#t=13[/video]
The talk titled, “Why Democracy in Hong Kong Matters,” spanned an hour, with NED regional vice president Louisa Greve leading the duo through a full introduction of the “Occupy Central” movement, its characters, agenda, demands, and talking points.

Anson Chan – Hong Kong’s Chief Secretary under British rule – in particular, with her perfect British accent, insisted repeatedly that the issue was China’s apparent backtracking on “deals” made with the UK over the handover of Hong Kong in the late 1990′s.

Lee, as well as members of the audience, repeatedly stated that Hong Kong’s role was to “infect” mainland China with its Western-style institutions, laws, and interests. Lee also repeatedly appealed to Washington specifically to ensure they remained committed to defending American interests in Hong Kong.

Both Lee and Chan would also state that since China appears to be concerned over global perception of how it rules its people, this could be exploited to excise from Beijing concessions over Hong Kong’s governance. This included mention of previous protests, including those led by “activist” Joshua Wong and his suspicious “Scholarism” organization that has been tracked since at least 2012 by the US State Department’s NDI. And of course, future destabilization was submitted as a viable solution to bending Beijing toward Western concessions.

For those able to listen to the entire 1 hour interview as well as questions and answers, the entire “Occupy Central” narrative is laid bare, verbatim, in Washington DC months before demonstrations began in the streets of Hong Kong. For a supposed “pro-democracy” protest seeking self-governance and self-determination and denouncing “interference” from Beijing, that their leaders are funded by foreign interests, and the plans for “Occupy Central” laid in a foreign capital is ironic at best – utter and very intentional deceit at worst.

Democracy indeed assumes self-governance and self determination. If the US State Department is colluding with, funding, and directing the politicians and protest leaders behind “Occupy Central,” the people of Hong Kong are governing and determining nothing – Washington and Wall Street are. Martin Lee and collaborator Anson Chan complain about Beijing dictating policy in Hong Kong, while they sit together in a room full of foreign interests who would dictate Hong Kong’s governance instead.

Laid bare is “Occupy Central’s” true agenda. It is not about having Hong Kong vote for who they desire to see in power, it is about getting the foreign-backed political cabal behind “Occupy Central” into power, and disarming Beijing of any means to prevent what is for all intents and purposes the “soft” recolonization of Hong Kong, and a further attempt to divide and destabilize China as a whole.

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plawolf

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OMG, being poked with umbrellas - how awful!

Come on, who is this guy? Aren't police officers supposed to be trained in dealing with tense situations? If they use tear gas and pepper spray when they're jabbed with umbrellas, what do they do if there's a real disturbance - ask the PLAAF to carry out strafing runs?!

The word 'poke' seems like a mistranslation, literally it means poke, but in the context of what the police officer was saying, and based in the realities of what we have seen in the videos, 'stabbing' is a far more accurate translation, and undoubtably what the officer meant.

If you dispute that, go get a steel fixed body umbrella, not one of those collapsible folding ones, but a solid one-piece one like what they were using, poke/jab a police office repeated with it an see what happens and what they charge you with. You'd be damned lucky if the police officer only use pepper spray on you, and you can be sure they won't just charge you with 'poking'. :rolleyes:
 

ancestral

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The word 'poke' seems like a mistranslation, literally it means poke, but in the context of what the police officer was saying, and based in the realities of what we have seen in the videos, 'stabbing' is a far more accurate translation, and undoubtably what the officer meant.

If you dispute that, go get a steel fixed body umbrella, not one of those collapsible folding ones, but a solid one-piece one like what they were using, poke a police office repeated with it an see what happens and what they charge you with. You'd be damned lucky if the police officer only use pepper spray on you, and you can be sure they won't just charge you with 'poking'. :rolleyese:

May carry serious consequences depending on skin color. May result in gunshot through the head repeatedly.
 

plawolf

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May carry serious consequences depending on skin color. May result in gunshot through the head repeatedly.

Nah, if Mr T's had the 'wrong' skin colour in the part of the world he grew up in, he wouldn't have the kind of views he does about what the police are 'supposed' to put up with.
 

Franklin

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I don't know to what extend there is foreign involvement in these protest. But if there is it may backfire on them as it seems that the OC protesters are angering and alienating more and more people in HK by the day. I'm surprised that tempers in HK have frailed so quickly as it has only been 7 days. I don't know how long these protests will continue but it seems to me that these students are no longer listening to either their parents or the organizations leaders. They are staying on the streets despite calls from both of them to leave.
 
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I'm not surprised by the protest backfiring so soon because:
1. it is not protesting something that directly affects people's everyday lives
2. it is not offering an alternative that is clearly better for people's everyday lives
3. it is actually obstructing people's everyday lives
Everyday lives folks, that's what it's all about for practical people and HK people are a practical bunch.
 
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