Broccoli
Senior Member
Some times you win and some times you lose...
HJ-8 ATGM in Syria
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Some times you win and some times you lose...
SteelBird
Colonel
Aren't those armored bulldozers new?
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Did it miss or hit I think it hit hard to tell because the tank moves behind the wall towards the end the missile might have just clipped it in the end by looking at the blast
SteelBird
Colonel
It looks like a miss to me, the ATGM hit the wall.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Yeah a second look confirms that
We see now how effective the Assad tank crews are, they use flanking, staging areas and fall back
Now they no longer just charge around like idiots a tank company usually has a lead and a rear, they dont travel all at the same time when entering a combat zone the rear tank always stops and holds gaurd while the lead tank pushes on
Also now they are using tanks and infantry integrated togther like a proper mechanised unit, tanks clear the way while infantry does the deep cleaning
Also Assad forces now achieve fire supremacy early in the fight, that's laying down lots of smack and making the rebels just to duck then sending in infantry to finish the job
This is why rebels are losing big time, Assad has learnt the lessons of war he's army is doing quite well
However I don't doubt that in a open desert warfare no Arab army barring Egypt can seriously and properly deploy tanks to win a war they just don't know how tank warfare works, in Syria it's urban warfare mainly which is tank vs rebels who have no tanks
To use tanks in the open you need artillery support and combat helicopters, you need mobility firepower and flexibility
If you want to know anything about mechanised warfare then there's nothing better than learning from the Master himself, Field Marshall Erwin Rommel and his book called "Rommel and his art of war"
Over 70 years ago successfully integrated the use of artillery and amour, or should I say he mastered the art
We see now how effective the Assad tank crews are, they use flanking, staging areas and fall back
Now they no longer just charge around like idiots a tank company usually has a lead and a rear, they dont travel all at the same time when entering a combat zone the rear tank always stops and holds gaurd while the lead tank pushes on
Also now they are using tanks and infantry integrated togther like a proper mechanised unit, tanks clear the way while infantry does the deep cleaning
Also Assad forces now achieve fire supremacy early in the fight, that's laying down lots of smack and making the rebels just to duck then sending in infantry to finish the job
This is why rebels are losing big time, Assad has learnt the lessons of war he's army is doing quite well
However I don't doubt that in a open desert warfare no Arab army barring Egypt can seriously and properly deploy tanks to win a war they just don't know how tank warfare works, in Syria it's urban warfare mainly which is tank vs rebels who have no tanks
To use tanks in the open you need artillery support and combat helicopters, you need mobility firepower and flexibility
If you want to know anything about mechanised warfare then there's nothing better than learning from the Master himself, Field Marshall Erwin Rommel and his book called "Rommel and his art of war"
Over 70 years ago successfully integrated the use of artillery and amour, or should I say he mastered the art
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Never ever ever in a million years. Trophy is Israeli. Assad would sooner turn in his family jewels then buy from Isreal and Israel would never sell to him. The Russian Arena system is more likely buy for him.
Now just to understand the concept. If one of these HJ8 were fired at a Israeli Merkiva tank with Trophy here is what would happen. Millimeter wavelength radars mounted on the hull would detect the missile, that data would be run though a computer which would calculate the best point of interception and speed. Then fire a explosive device at the inbound missile. The device would impact the HJ8 and blow it away safely before impact with the tank. The tank crew would be informed of the event and the computer would also give a firing solution onto the point of origin.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
For a T72 with Arena the situation changes a little. The rebles line up the HJ8 and let'er rip. Once again millimeter wavelength radar systems in the hull sense the threat and calculate. They then fire a shaped charge block which explodes showering the missile with frag. Shredding it.