Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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escobar

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China has made a big song and dance about the visit meaning a red line is crossed, even if those exact words were not used. It would be a huge blow to the credibility of China and the PLA to backdown meekly after that.
CN has made big song and dance in the past for other things. For me, the huge blow to the credilibity of CN on TW is a past thing not a future thing. Until PLA is more powerfull than US military, CN has not great credibility on TW.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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What about these folks here?

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Nah, man, they're the temporarily embarrassed soon-to-be wealthy. They just have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
 

OppositeDay

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Why not...

Close the consulate in SFO
100% tariffs on California wine and produce
Starting 2023 September, RMB5,000,000 exit visa for students going to California undergrad courses- the proceeds of which go to retraining/vocational schools in Xinjiang

No because targeting California makes it about Pelosi. China has always maintained it's not just Pelosi but USG as a whole.
 

dasCKD

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China has made a big song and dance about the visit meaning a red line is crossed, even if those exact words were not used. It would be a huge blow to the credibility of China and the PLA to backdown meekly after that.
I will have to profess that I would take no small amount of grim satisfaction in seeing one of the gormless parasites of the American political class do a massive song and dance and declaring an early victory only to see every geopolitical gain crumble to dust before her eyes the moment she boards the plane should the PRC go ahead and do something drastic and cross line after line that the international public thought that they would never cross.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Can you imagine the discussion if there was internet back in 1939 during the period called the Phoney War?

I'm not sure folks in America even knew there was a phoney war, they would have called it fake news.

Then in a flash Germans were celebrating in Paris. Soon after a four million man army invaded Soviet Union. Next up cities were being firebombed and the atomic age was born.

From Hang Out The Washing On The Siegfried Line to 50 million dead.
They trolled just fine before the Internet.
 

Lnk111229

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To be honest, I'm little bit disappointed. Pretty sure white worshipper and banana across world is having "best" moment right now. So i will try have best sleep i could, clear my mind, enter zen mode or tomorrow if someone step on my tail i will literally beat the shit out of them. So bye.
 

weig2000

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Too much emotion in this thread. Mods should take some actions.

It's pretty clear now that China's planned response all along has been an immediate large-scale, surround-the-island military exercise right after Nancy Pelosi's visit to Taiwan. This is actually a well thought out response, demonstrating both the restraint to such a symbolic but rather meaningless provocation and the strength of military power sending a signal that China can take over Taiwan if necessary.

China has never said anything close to shooting down Pelosi's plane or even intercepting her plane. But clearly, it has managed the PR extremely poorly, raising the expectation of many that some direct face-off between Chinese and US militaries is likely. I had my doubts that such dramatic measures were in the cards, given the non-military nature of her visit and the (non-)deployment of Chinese naval and air force around Taiwan. In the end, I was almost convinced that the Chinese would at least do some interception regardless if they would eventually let her land in Taiwan or not, because of all the fury, bluster and hysteria emitting from various Chinese channels, official or unofficial ones (after all, it is hardly unprecedented that Chinese military aircraft intercept foreign military aircraft). The resulting impression is that China is all bark but no bite. This, again, demonstrates the poor skills of managing public perceptions by China.

A couple of years ago, I said on SDF that China would need large-scale, joint-operation exercises around Taiwan to simulate the invasion of Taiwan. It's hard to do that during normal times. An occasion like now affords such an opportunity. China needs to do this for the necessary training, particularly in a near-real environment, every once in a while. This kind of exercises will also serve the purpose of desensitizing Taiwan and other countries, until the time comes to convert such exercise into real operation.

China has the military strength to gain the upper hand against the US forces deployed or based nearby around Taiwan now. But it would be extremely unwise to seek a direct military confrontation for this visit. It will take a lot more to get there, individually or cumulatively. But I have no doubt this incident will have long-lasting consequences.
 
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