FFG 054/054A Thread

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tphuang

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BTW I don't know if you guys noticed but you see that orange/red box? Isn't that the VLS?
sorry to disappoint you, that's the banners in Chinese saying that photos are prohibited.
 

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sorry to disappoint you, that's the banners in Chinese saying that photos are prohibited.

I was referring to this pic >_>
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BTW I don't know if you guys noticed but you see that orange/red box? Isn't that the VLS?

Might be yeah. I can't think of anything else what it could be. If that is so, then there is a VLS also in the back and that's the logical place to put it. The hanger structure does appear lengthened compard to the original 054.

The size of the box gives you an approximate idea what the size of the missile might be.
 

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sorry Swimmer,

anyway, pictures from HD 054A getting launched.
actually, mostly images of 071, but 054A is in the background
071dec21wr0.jpg

071dec212ce9.jpg

071dec213zz3.jpg

054ahddec21cs4.jpg
 

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even more, these are the ones that show more of 054A's sensors than ever before.
054ahddec212tw2.jpg

054ahdfrontdec21zk9.jpg

054ahdradarsdec21st5.jpg

054ahddec213sq0.jpg

071dec164sv6.jpg
 

mehdi

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Hey tphuang thanks for the update and about the pics showing vls at the back of the 054A is it real????

Secondly is there any difference with this 054A compared to the 054A's already built!!!
 

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There isent no VSLs in the back, all the rumours of them are based on the crude PS of the model...
And the new close ups doesent look that PS as the pics with larger pics, wich still looks too sharp to be real....

Also, if its real, could it be that its the first 054A, and the older pics with more greyish hull aside the single type22 are from bit longer from the past???

But as for the Orekhs, if we believe that Russian officals claim, that they súpplied the weapon kit, could it be that when the new SA-N-12 and its VSL mode is available, the old Orekhs are replaced with improved model.
If we want to believe in chinese modification, HHQ-16 as a chinese version of Sthill family comes to my mind...
 

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There isent no VSLs in the back, all the rumours of them are based on the crude PS of the model...
And the new close ups doesent look that PS as the pics with larger pics, wich still looks too sharp to be real....

Also, if its real, could it be that its the first 054A, and the older pics with more greyish hull aside the single type22 are from bit longer from the past???

But as for the Orekhs, if we believe that Russian officals claim, that they súpplied the weapon kit, could it be that when the new SA-N-12 and its VSL mode is available, the old Orekhs are replaced with improved model.
If we want to believe in chinese modification, HHQ-16 as a chinese version of Sthill family comes to my mind...

oops, I wanted to actually post this image
071dec214fx5.jpg

The last image of my last post isn't really from yesterday.
I don't think HHQ-16 has to be a Chinese version of shtil family. There were some Russian help on the project, they could very well have been helping to get the HHQ-16 work with Orekhs.
 

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Fantastic pics of both the O54A and O71! Bravo!

Re the orange container, far more likely just a ventilation related construction element similar to the blue containers which house site offices etc on the helipads of both the 071 & 054A during the later phases of construction. The which polysomethinguphane tubes coming out of it make it look very much construction and very little VLS.
 

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I think its a new Orekh variant. Not only is it bigger, but the way it looks the body have been recasted to have a lower RCS signature, "stealthified" if you will.
 
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