FFG 054/054A Thread

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tphuang

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the second 054A from Huangpu
according to the guy who posted these pictures, he went to HP and saw that the VLS is square for sure and there are 32 cells.
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random musing, compare the number of rows on antenna, from Chinese forum
This is for 052B's top plate
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guy posted this counted around 36 rows
This for 054A's top plate
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apparently 56 on this.
This is Sea Eagle
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apparently 70 rows on this.

I'm too lazy to count it up, so don't hold me accountable if the numbers are incorrect.
 

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There is more easier way to determine that these radars are different than counting the rows...Just look what is between the plates. The arms that supports the plates are different in the chinese and the russian radars.
 

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Re the radar. lol, the 'rear' plate is merely rotated about 90degrees between the first two pictures. The rotation system is less telling as it differs noticibly between all three photos.
 

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I don't think it's from a fire. Looks like it could be a fuel spill from refueling. That's very common on board warships.

Problem is: are fuel spills suppose to be that big? And I doubt the refueling port is next to a dinghy port...
 

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Problem is: are fuel spills suppose to be that big? And I doubt the refueling port is next to a dinghy port...


Thats' not uncommon on warships for the refueling probe to be close to the dingy's(small boats) But we can only speculate what that brown stuff is?

Fuel spills during replenishment at sea can be quite large. I've seen some real messes.
 

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latest picture from HD on 054A
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latest picture from HD on 054A
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The SSM fitting looks a lot like the blast ramp of the Type-054's YJ-83 tubes but it doesn't look like an exact match IMO - very close though. Things seem to be pointing towards yJ-83 on the Type-054As as well, which will be a bit of a blow to the PLAN nut riders bforum brigade :roll:
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Note that the YJ-62 tubes on the Type-052C don't have any fixtures that match these on the Type-054A:
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Pity, I was rather hoping to see YJ-62s. :coffee:
 

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(For those looking forward to YJ-62s)Well, you have to say, Yj-62s aren't exactly frigate size SSMs. They are more of an overkill. They are heavy. And someone needs to use this missile, of course.

And think of it this way: What improvement does the YJ-62 have over the YJ-8?
Speed? We thought so.
Guidance? We don't know much about it.
It is a dual-use missile w/ LACM/semi-LACM abilities. You don't need that on a frigate.
It has more range; it's a frigate, 150km is enough.

So what does extra abilities does it have?
A larger warhead. But that also mean you will have a bulkier, heavier missile. And notice, it is not as "stealthy". The YJ-8X flies at 5-7m altitude final; YJ-62 does 7-10. Lower you fly, the harder for one to detect you, and harder for missiles to strike you.
 
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