F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

Equation

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It's a bit odd that he'd risk shipping that many boxes of documents, when he could have simply bought a scanner and digitized the papers.

It would take him too much time and bring suspicious by his fellow workers as to why is he scanning those documents. Grabbing the whole blue prints and books is quicker and leave less evidence of theft because there are other copies around.
 

thunderchief

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It's a bit odd that he'd risk shipping that many boxes of documents, when he could have simply bought a scanner and digitized the papers.

Well , I suppose he scanned most important documents and sent them over Internet . And then he got careless and lazy ... deadly mistake for any spy :D

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Pentagon’s Chief Tester Warns: F-35B Block 2B software is not Ready for 2015 IOC

A new U.S. Defense Department report warns that ongoing software, maintenance and reliability problems with Lockheed Martin Corp’s F-35 stealth fighter could delay the Marine Corps’ plans to start using its F-35 jets by mid-2015. Reuter reported today

The latest report by the Pentagon’s chief weapons tester, Michael Gilmore, forecast a possible 13-month delay in completing testing of the Block 2B software needed for the Marine Corps to clear the jets for initial combat use next year, a priority given the high cost of maintaining current aging warplanes. The report, due to be sent to Congress this week, said the aircraft is proving less reliable and harder to maintain than expected, and remains vulnerable to propellant fires sparked by missile strikes.

Gilmore: “Aircraft is proving less reliable and harder to maintain than expected, and remains vulnerable to propellant fires sparked by missile strikes”

Air Force Lieutenant General Chris Bogdan, the Pentagon’s F-35 program chief, said in a statement to Reuters that Gilmore’s report was factually accurate but did not reflect concerted efforts under way by his office. “The basic design of the F-35 is sound, and test results underscore our confidence in the ultimate performance that the United States and its international partners and allies value so highly,” Bogdan said, adding that he remained confident that the F-35′s initial combat capability would be ready in time for the U.S. Marine Corps next year. He cited a series of successful weapons tests done late last year. He said the program was about halfway through developmental testing after completing 1,153 flights and accomplishing more than 9,000 test objectives in 2013. “Of course, we recognize risks still exist in the program, but they are understood and manageable.” Bogdan added.

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Equation

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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

Well , I suppose he scanned most important documents and sent them over Internet . And then he got careless and lazy ... deadly mistake for any spy :D

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That's just for the F-35B Block-2B version, all the others F-35s are being produced and in service. Just the Marines has to wait a little longer to get their bird.
 

Air Force Brat

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That's just for the F-35B Block-2B version, all the others F-35s are being produced and in service. Just the Marines has to wait a little longer to get their bird.

Actually the Marines are wanting to go IOC before everyone else, the software continues to be a concern, but one that they are working on diligently, but it is very real concern. Now is it as big a deal as some make it out to be??? NO, but this is a very "smart" airplane, and all that smarts takes time to program, but it will get done, and they will be operating them, as they are now, just like my Daddy always used to say, "go with what ya got".
 

thunderchief

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I really cannot understand why they cannot integrate few basic weapons for IOC . I mean , plane is already flying . How hard could it be to implement few basic control laws for FBW in order to enable plane to carry LGBs or AIM-120 ?
 

FORBIN

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Seems according to several experts very difficult and expensive build one fighter for three services, joint, this would have had better, easy build 3 different planes, and for we combat aircrafts fans we would have had 3 designs different or about, more interesting/nice.

For F-35 look the big reactor is ugly on back view, in more bad for stealth design.

Fighter with two reactors are more elegant, more powerful and safest.
 

thunderchief

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Seems according to several experts very difficult and expensive build one fighter for three services, joint, this would have had better, easy build 3 different planes, and for we combat aircrafts fans we would have had 3 designs different or about, more interesting/nice.

For F-35 look the big reactor is ugly on back view, in more bad for stealth design.

Fighter with two reactors are more elegant, more powerful and safest.

Reactors ? You mean engines ? :p

VTOL aircraft for Marines should have been different project . On the other hand CATOBAR aircraft for Navy and regular fighter for USAF could share design to cut cost .
 

Air Force Brat

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I really cannot understand why they cannot integrate few basic weapons for IOC . I mean , plane is already flying . How hard could it be to implement few basic control laws for FBW in order to enable plane to carry LGBs or AIM-120 ?

In practice, they want to integrate the -2B as a unit, they may have to bring a few weapon up independently, but to get paid, you have to finish the job, LOL
 

Air Force Brat

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On the other hand CATOBAR aircraft for Navy and regular fighter for USAF could share design to cut cost .

Thats the whole idea of the F-35, one airplane, in three different, "option" packages, in fact the USAF A would be very poor off the carrier, and would have to be very light "coming aboard" to even hope to get on the carrier. The Cs additional wing and horizontal stab area allow it to "come aboard" at the high end of 145knts, without that we might be talking 160knts, it will NOT happen, they are not happy that its 145knts.

Forbin, this was to be an F-16 type aircraft, to complement the F-22 as the High end of the Hi/Lo concept of fighter procurement. It was NEVER to be the A bird, but was to be the less capable/much more numerous "budget bird", to complement the F-22, but reduction in the total buy of the F-22 has propelled it to the "front of the class", hence the single "reactor" as opposed to multi-engine????
 

thunderchief

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Thats the whole idea of the F-35, one airplane, in three different, "option" packages, in fact the USAF A would be very poor off the carrier, and would have to be very light "coming aboard" to even hope to get on the carrier. The Cs additional wing and horizontal stab area allow it to "come aboard" at the high end of 145knts, without that we might be talking 160knts, it will NOT happen, they are not happy that its 145knts.

B version is the main problem . I'm not a fan of Pierre Sprey , but he has a point about VTOL aircraft - they have "fat" fuselage and relatively small wings to be able to take-off vertically . Current version of F-35 is good for Marines , but Navy and Air Force should have gone for smaller one-engined version of F-22 . In a current situation we have a situation where F-16 armed with 4 AAMs would turn and accelerate faster then F-35 with internal weapons . Yes , I know that common wisdom dictates BVR combat , but even in this age you cannot avoid dogfights .

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Forbin, this was to be an F-16 type aircraft, to complement the F-22 as the High end of the Hi/Lo concept of fighter procurement. It was NEVER to be the A bird, but was to be the less capable/much more numerous "budget bird", to complement the F-22, but reduction in the total buy of the F-22 has propelled it to the "front of the class", hence the single "reactor" as opposed to multi-engine????

F-35 is now getting close or even more expensive then F-22 . If they mass produced F-22 as they plan with F-35 it would be cheaper and better solution .
 
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