F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

[Anlsvrthng]

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this article clarify the F-35 carrier landing capabilities, and it says that the recent F-18 has similar landing capability.


As it looks like it is not an automated landing, rather than an asisted one, where the software make small corrections to keep on track the plane, and it decrease the required skill level of the pilot to land.


It means the next options, ranked by highest to lowest possibility:
1. issue with the software - effect is ban the F-35 from carriers until its fixed , however the same software used on the F-18 , so it could affect both type
2. Other problem with the aircraft, example engine trouble that would make impossible the landing with or without software asistance
3. Issue with the ship

 

[dbc]

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this article clarify the F-35 carrier landing capabilities, and it says that the recent F-18 has similar landing capability.


As it looks like it is not an automated landing, rather than an asisted one, where the software make small corrections to keep on track the plane, and it decrease the required skill level of the pilot to land.


It means the next options, ranked by highest to lowest possibility:
1. issue with the software - effect is ban the F-35 from carriers until its fixed , however the same software used on the F-18 , so it could affect both type
2. Other problem with the aircraft, example engine trouble that would make impossible the landing with or without software asistance
3. Issue with the ship

I'd put my money on a possible nose gear collapse. The F-35 C nose gear struct oscillates and vibrates violently during launch, it is possible repeated launch does more damage to the landing gear than previously anticipated.

 

[dbc]

I'd put my money on a possible nose gear collapse. The F-35 C nose gear struct oscillates and vibrates violently during launch, it is possible repeated launch does more damage to the landing gear than previously anticipated.

 

[ohan_qwe]

Perhaps the pilot was spooked by something while in the air, making him perform worse than usual at landing time, ala Cougar in Top Gun. I recall there were some big PLAAF incursions into the Taiwan ADIZ at the same time.

I don't see any conspiracy theories. Speculation maybe, but that would be expected with two crashes a few months apart. What would be the alternative - nothing to see here, look away?

Having a combat pilot spooked by something so they can't land is ridiculous. In war pilots land after being in combat and seeing friends die China doing it's 55th flyover over Taiwan won't spook anyone.

 

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Wonder if it is a flaw of the F-35 or something we will see with any stealth coated figther during extended carrier ops.

I think landing gears moving violently is par of course for carrier ops.

Look at how the MiG-29K landing gear shake in all sorts of direction during landings

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

It’s not rust and it’s not a new problem. The F35C in USN deployment are preproduction models with an older stealth coating that breaks down over time. Newer production models have a newer coating the brown is the color of one of the under layers peaking though.

 

[Abominable]

It is rust. It is the stealth coating that contains a ferromagnetic compound which when exposed to the environment oxidises. The coating needs to be replaced routinely, and jets in non urgent roles don't have their coating replaced as often. There was an article on the drive about it some time back

 

[dbc]

I think landing gears moving violently is par of course for carrier ops.

The severity of the problem is unique to the F-35C. During testing in 2017, 20% of F-35C pilots complained of severe pain after CAT launch, 5% of persistent severe pain . The violent oscillation is bad enough to prevent the pilot from reading critical flight data for a few seconds pre and post launch.

These issues were reported addressed by LM three or four years ago with a minor fix.

 

[Strangelove]

F-35 Sea Lightning II...

 

[Hyper]

It is rust. It is the stealth coating that contains a ferromagnetic compound which when exposed to the environment oxidises. The coating needs to be replaced routinely, and jets in non urgent roles don't have their coating replaced as often. There was an article on the drive about it some time back

I doubly they use iron ball paint for RAM.