F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

siegecrossbow

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If's it's not two people sleeping at the wheel at the same time and not software error then there's a 3rd, even more intriguing possibility. The fact that USN have been unusually quite at this incident makes it even more interesting. Recall when USS Connecticut banged into something USN fairly quickly came out and said it hit some underwater object, before the sub was even back to Guam. Here it took more than 24 hours before the USN would even admit the aircraft is in the water, and were it not for the leaked video and photos people would have zero idea about the nature of the incident and would probably still be guessing mainly that an arrestor wire snapped. Even now we still don't know weather or not the carrier itself sustained any damage or how the deck crew were injured.

Perhaps the pilot was spooked by something while in the air, making him perform worse than usual at landing time, ala Cougar in Top Gun. I recall there were some big PLAAF incursions into the Taiwan ADIZ at the same time.

If some pilots in Eastern Theater Command gets Level Two or Level One commendations for “completing mission in January 2022” then we have indirect confirmation.
 

Blitzo

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I don't see why the story needs to be a conspiracy theory? Maybe the pilot just made a mistake and ended up striking the deck during the landing? That seems to be the most likely cause of the mishap.

I agree with this.

No need to come up with colourful theories.
This is a relatively new aircraft that is entering service in larger numbers. Accidents due to causes like bugs, human error, is to be expected.
 

GodRektsNoobs

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Here is an analysis from a DCS aircraft enthusiast. I think his speculation is sound - the aircraft came in too low during visual approach and hit the end of the flight deck.

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Oh, and another conclusion he made was that based on the successive leaks, everyone can bid goodbye on behalf of crew of USS Carl Vinson to the free Wifi internet service installed last year. Somebody is gonna get a displine real bad!
 

tiancai8888

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If's it's not two people sleeping at the wheel at the same time and not software error then there's a 3rd, even more intriguing possibility. The fact that USN have been unusually quite at this incident makes it even more interesting. Recall when USS Connecticut banged into something USN fairly quickly came out and said it hit some underwater object, before the sub was even back to Guam. Here it took more than 24 hours before the USN would even admit the aircraft is in the water, and were it not for the leaked video and photos people would have zero idea about the nature of the incident and would probably still be guessing mainly that an arrestor wire snapped. Even now we still don't know weather or not the carrier itself sustained any damage or how the deck crew were injured.

Perhaps the pilot was spooked by something while in the air, making him perform worse than usual at landing time, ala Cougar in Top Gun. I recall there were some big PLAAF incursions into the Taiwan ADIZ at the same time.
What is the USN regualtion for using the personal cell phone on the ship?
 

Abominable

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USN confirmed, someone has trouble.

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I'm surprised they've admitted to the authenticity of the images. Then again the interesting bit has been cut out of the video.

There's a difference between these leaks - a sailor using his own phone to record and upload a crash, and the RN one where onboard camera footage was obtained and uploaded.
 

Abominable

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I don't see why the story needs to be a conspiracy theory? Maybe the pilot just made a mistake and ended up striking the deck during the landing? That seems to be the most likely cause of the mishap.
I don't see any conspiracy theories. Speculation maybe, but that would be expected with two crashes a few months apart. What would be the alternative - nothing to see here, look away?

There are questions about its take off and landing capabilities, which are rumoured to be automated, not being as effective as they were being claimed to be. On a carrier there isn't much room for error, literally, and given that regular commercial planes are manually controlled when taking off and landing you have to wonder whether the technology is mature enough for deployment.

Again, all speculation and it could just be a coincidence.
 
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