F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

asif iqbal

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US Marine Corps has stood up its fist operational squadron last year

Marine strike fighter squadron all weather -121 VMFA-121 converted on 20 th nov 2012 from F18 Hornet

By September 2013 the VMFA-121 will received total of 16 units, However they fly only limited flight envelope and can't fly during instrumental meteorologist conditions and they have no combat capability

USMC also rushed in the V-22 Osprey with almost 2 dozen lives lost it is now said that Pentagon is reviewing the very fast induction of the F35 because it has not yet completed its full test and evaluation
 

Jeff Head

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US Marine Corps has stood up its fist operational squadron last year

Marine strike fighter squadron all weather -121 VMFA-121 converted on 20 th nov 2012 from F18 Hornet

By September 2013 the VMFA-121 will received total of 16 units, However they fly only limited flight envelope and can't fly during instrumental meteorologist conditions and they have no combat capability.

Yes, VMFA 121 is now the first F-35B squadron. I posted in Novemebr, on this thread, the following regarding it:

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- Three Lockheed Martin F-35B short takeoff/vertical landing (STOVL) aircraft were officially delivered to the U.S. Marine Corps during ceremonies at Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, Ariz., today. The three jets are assigned to Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 121 residing with the host Marine Aircraft Group 13.

“For more than 50 years, it has been our mission to support the Marine Corps mission, and we’re honored to deliver the first three F-35B STOVL aircraft to Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 121,” said Bob Stevens, Lockheed Martin chairman and chief executive officer. “The F-35B is the world’s only 5th generation, supersonic, stealthy combat aircraft that can also hover, take off and land virtually anywhere Marines are in action. Through the hard work and dedication of the military and contractor team, the F-35B will define the future of Marine Corps aviation.”

Official welcoming ceremonies at Yuma marked the handover of the jets to the Marines. The delivery of the first three operational-coded 5th generation F-35B STOVL fighters marks the beginning of STOVL tactical operations at Air Station Yuma.

As time goes on, all weather and fuill combat qualifications will follow.
 

Air Force Brat

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Yes, VMFA 121 is now the first F-35B squadron. I posted in Novemebr, on this thread, the following regarding it:

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As time goes on, all weather and fuill combat qualifications will follow.

Right and Yuma is one of those places where you don't have a lot of cruddy weather, one of the reasons all the branches have bases in the dry southwest, as the flight testing progresses and the restrictions come off, the curiculum will become more operational and less academic. You really don't know how any aircraft or military vehicle will fare in the T and E and the sooner you open up the operational environment the sooner the answers will come rolling in, and you will come up with the fixes and changes that every new design inevitably requires. The F-35 will move forward, and getting ours up and running is an expiditious means of encouraging the rest of the good guys to get in and go with it, lots of folks get buyers remorse over purchases large and small, lots of partners have the same type of loosey-goosey politicians that have handicapped our military in the last 50 years and nothing will likely improve that but doing it, and passing out the BLTs!
 

Jeff Head

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The F-35 will move forward, and getting ours up and running is an expiditious means of encouraging the rest of the good guys to get in and go with it, lots of folks get buyers remorse over purchases large and small, lots of partners have the same type of loosey-goosey politicians that have handicapped our military in the last 50 years and nothing will likely improve that but doing it, and passing out the BLTs!
You got that right, brother. All very solid and good points in that last!

Particularly about the pols and about getting the stuff out there in the environment and working to finalize the design.
 

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Pentagon Grounds Marine Corps Model Of F-35 Fighter Jet
By Reuters

The Pentagon and U.S. Navy on Friday ordered a temporary grounding of the Marine Corps version of Lockheed Martin Corp’s F-35 fighter jet after an incident that occurred during a training flight at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida on Wednesday.

The Pentagon’s F-35 program office said the grounding affected all 25 F-35B model jets, while flights of the Air Force’s A-model and the Navy’s C-model were unaffected. Ground operations of the B-model planes continued, it said.

The program office it ordered the suspension of flight operations after a propulsion line associated with the B-model’s exhaust system failed prior to takeoff. The pilot aborted the takeoff without incident and cleared the runway, the program office said in a statement. There were no injuries to the pilot or ground crew.

The incident came just days after the Pentagon’s director of testing and evaluation released an 18-page report detailing an array of problems which he said underscored the “lack of maturity” of the $396 billion fighter program.

Matthew Bates, spokesman for Pratt & Whitney, a unit of United Technologies Corp, which builds the engines for the singe-engine, single-seat fighter jet, said an initial inspection discovered a detached propulsion line in the rear part of the engine compartment.

The fueldraulic line is not used in the A- or C-models, which are still permitted to fly.

“A team of Pratt & Whitney and Rolls-Royce engineers is investigating the cause of the incident and working closely with Lockheed Martin and the F-35 Joint Program Office to resolve the matter,” Bates said in a statement provided to Reuters.

He said there had been no previous issues with the component that triggered the grounding.

What is a detached propulsion line? "Fueldraulic" suggest to me a fuel leak.
 

no_name

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Report: Lightning a threat to the F-35

By Aaron Mehta - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Jan 14, 2013 15:50:31 EST

Despite undergoing regular test flights, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, called the Lightning II, remains vulnerable to its namesake — lightning.

Additionally, attempts to lighten the JSF by 11 pounds may have left the fifth-generation stealth fighter more vulnerable than the aircraft it will replace.
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Those are among the findings of a new report from the Pentagon’s Operational Test and Evaluation office (OT&E), first obtained by Time magazine. Test flights are “not permitted” within 25 miles of known lightning conditions due to a needed redesign to the On-Board Inert Gas Generating System (OBIGGS), which maintains correct oxygen levels in the fuel tank. The system is crucial to protecting the engine from exploding in case of a lightning strike.

A poor design for the fuel tank venting system also means that when the single-engine jet is below 20,000 feet, its descent rate is limited to no more than 6,000 feet per minute.

“Neither restriction is acceptable for combat or combat training,” according to the report. The program is redesigning the OBIGGS system to compensate for these deficiencies.

Meanwhile, the removal of two safety features in an attempt to reduce weight on the F-35 has left the plane vulnerable to fuel explosions if hit by enemy fire.

“The program’s most recent vulnerability assessment showed that the removal of fueldraulic fuses, the PAO shutoff valve and the dry bay fire suppression, also removed in 2008, results in the F-35 not meeting the Operational Requirements Document (ORD) requirement to have a vulnerability posture better than analogous legacy aircraft,” officials wrote in the report.

The PAO shutoff was removed to save 2 pounds from the jet, but without it, a rupture in the area below the cockpit, such as that caused by a bullet fired during combat, would “likely cause an immediate incapacitation and loss of the pilot and aircraft.”

Similarly, the fueldraulic system, which is used to control the engine exhaust nozzle, was removed in 2008 to save 9 pounds. While the system leaves open the chance of a sustained fire if exposed, the program office “is accepting the increased vulnerability associated with the fueldraulic system and is currently not considering reinstating the fueldraulic fuses in the production aircraft configuration.”

Combined, the 11 pounds saved resulted in a “25 percent increase in aircraft vulnerability,” according to the findings of the report.

Testers also discovered a handful of cracks in the tested aircraft, including on the right wing and right engine of the F-35A variant, and multiple cracks on the bulkhead flange of the F-35B variant.

“All of these discoveries will require mitigation plans and may include redesigning parts and additional weight,” the testers found.

A spokeswoman for OT&E directed questions to the Pentagon’s Joint Strike Fighter program office, which did not return requests for comment.

Critics of the program, such as Ben Freeman of the Project on Government Oversight, view the new report as more proof that the JSF is “a broken record.”

“I think we still need to have far more oversight of the program,” Freeman said. “At some point, you’ve got to say that if these problems keep going, we have to slow down the buy.”

Robbin Laird, a consultant with ICSA, disagrees. He said this kind of report always lists the negatives, and called for live testing to continue.

“I don’t doubt that I can come up with a testing regime that the [F-16 or F/A-18] wouldn’t pass,” Laird said. “Why don’t we ask the pilots what’s going on? They’re the testers and developers.

“I want the users to come in and tell the designers what they want in the next iteration and sort out what’s possible,” Laird added.

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Report: Lightning a threat to the F-35



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Pretty much SOP, the B model is a very complex, heavy, high powered aircraft, the transition from forward flight involves a lot of high RPM high temp ops without much airflow to cool or damp out the vibrations which are no doubt awesome on nearly every frequency level, a pretty negative piece overall, the aircraft has done well in spin testing and high AOA with no surprises, transonic roll off and buffeting remain a problem, they had hoped to damp it out in the flight control system, ain't gonna happen, and along with the good stuff each one offers, they each have a squack list with their own fun little deals. Think this is fun, leave out the pilot and go tailless, why do you think UAVs are falling like rain drops. I hope no one gets dead, but I really can't wait till the X-47B starts bouncing around on the carriers, now that will be interesting! AFB
 
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no_name

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I read that the F-35 hydraulic system actually uses on board aviation fuel instead of whatever fluids that they normally use. Maybe this is a effort to save weight.
 

Air Force Brat

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I read that the F-35 hydraulic system actually uses on board aviation fuel instead of whatever fluids that they normally use. Maybe this is a effort to save weight.

It is and also as a coolant as well for some components, did I mention this was a complex aircraft? LOL AFB

Rather than hydraulic oil, fuel is used to power the actuators in the thrust vectoring exhaust, I'm not sure thats a KISS item or lets see how difficult we can make it LOL, it is however quite innovative and eleminates the need for a separate hydraulic tank, but not sure what happens if you run out of gas? All aircraft seem to eventually have "low fuel event", so I guess we shall see? Brat
 
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F-35C CF-1 and CF-2 take on fuel from a KC-130 tanker during a test flight on 18 January 2013 from NAS Patuxent River, Maryland. This was the first time two F-35Cs aerial refueled at the same time. US Navy test pilot Chris Tabert was at the controls of CF-1 for the mission. Lockheed Martin test pilot Dan Canin was at the controls of CF-2.
 
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