F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

Air Force Brat

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True my brother, but you may be unfamiliar with the AFB's famous line-----"Aircraft SALES 101"------make NO mistake, we are in the biz to make money and be a sell airplanes, to not make it to Farnborough is to throw a five gallon gas can full on our sales prospects, we ain't gonna do that! Air Force Brat says those birds may be spooling up as we speak, and I am giving orders right now on the Sino Defense Forum to get those birds to Farnborough, launching no later than 24:00 7/16/2014 or I'm not the AFB. Let see someone else get the results I DO, because I AM the Air Force BRAT. This is a Direct Order from Central Obamastan, and I want a full program, no "pantywaist" fly by Krap! I repeat GAS EM UP and get em gone NOW! BRAT!

sent 09:00 hour Central ObamAstan


lets see you Chengdu Fan Boys match this!


Sorry Guys, I tried, but we're not even gonna get a panty-waist fly by, I'm working on the next big display, hopefully, we'll at least get something interesting here in the states, once these restrictions are lifted?????
 

Air Force Brat

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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

thunderchief

It's my understanding that the extremely small tolerances between the fan and the cowling are the problem. Granted that obviously generated enough heat to cause a fire, but the large amount of heat created by the engine itself is not the root cause.

The problem is that the Turbine blades grow as they are subjected to the extreme heat of combustion, and the cowling is not the exterior cowling, but the turbine "case", you are right, there are "very" tight tolerances, and the fan blades "expand" at a greater rate than the case. The F-135 is a very "HOT" as in extremely high temperatures, one of the reasons they are able to extract so much thrust from it, and it has outstanding "thermal efficiency", but, this is very critical, but hopefully we will find that either the blades or the case where "out of speck"... best case scenario.
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

True my brother, but you may be unfamiliar with the AFB's famous line-----"Aircraft SALES 101"------make NO mistake, we are in the biz to make money and be a sell airplanes, to not make it to Farnborough is to throw a five gallon gas can full on our sales prospects, we ain't gonna do that! Air Force Brat says those birds may be spooling up as we speak, and I am giving orders right now on the Sino Defense Forum to get those birds to Farnborough, launching no later than 24:00 7/16/2014 or I'm not the AFB. Let see someone else get the results I DO, because I AM the Air Force BRAT. This is a Direct Order from Central Obamastan, and I want a full program, no "pantywaist" fly by Krap! I repeat GAS EM UP and get em gone NOW! BRAT!

sent 09:00 hour Central ObamAstan


lets see you Chengdu Fan Boys match this!



THIS IS MY OFFICIAL AIR FORCE BRAT APOLOGY FOR GETTING FARBOROUGH WRONG, I WAS WRONG, Sorry Dudes, it happens????
 
re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

THIS IS MY OFFICIAL AIR FORCE BRAT APOLOGY FOR GETTING FARBOROUGH WRONG, I WAS WRONG, Sorry Dudes, it happens????

AFB, are you all right?

details are coming out, for example, "... restrictions on the plane's return to flight included limiting its speed to 0.9 Mach and 18 degrees of angle of attack. The front fan section of each engine must be inspected after three hours of flight time.” according to
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AFB, are you all right?

details are coming out, for example, "... restrictions on the plane's return to flight included limiting its speed to 0.9 Mach and 18 degrees of angle of attack. The front fan section of each engine must be inspected after three hours of flight time.” according to
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I'm Kool, even with 100 F-22skis, I could whip the entire world with one hand tied behind my back, the F-35s are just gravy, and pretty good gravy at that, I'm thinking like the white milk gravy on fried chicken and mashed taters,,,,yyyyyuuuuummmmmmhhhhhhhh, oh that made me feel good just thinking about it.....

This wimpy stuff will pass, that's just the New Marine Corp, getting all most as wussed out as the Air Force, its the new safer is better of the nanny state trickling down to our very core, or as the bamster would say corpse..... may be more truth to that than you know... And if there are any Chick Sino Defense Ladies, I'm not being sexist, just trying to define where we're at in this day and age, I know there are ladies in all of our services who are very good at what they do, and I am proud of them, and we do need a lot of help Jura, keep praying for us buddy! ya'll have a good day, at least these birds are back to aviating. and Jura that is a skinny envelope to try to squeeze my little THUNDERHOGGE II into, she won't stay there long, cause when that HOGGE decides to leave, she got some teeth!
 
re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

The problem is that the Turbine blades grow as they are subjected to the extreme heat of combustion, and the cowling is not the exterior cowling, but the turbine "case", you are right, there are "very" tight tolerances, and the fan blades "expand" at a greater rate than the case. The F-135 is a very "HOT" as in extremely high temperatures, one of the reasons they are able to extract so much thrust from it, and it has outstanding "thermal efficiency", but, this is very critical, but hopefully we will find that either the blades or the case where "out of speck"... best case scenario.

now I tried to look up what that temperature actually is ... found Turbine Inlet Temperature (whatever it is) of 3600ºF = 1982.2ºC for F135-PW-100 (is this the current F-35 engine?) and, for example, 2700ºF = 1482.2ºC for
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So, the new agreement will allow pricing to reach the levels targeted from the start for the F-35 program. To have F-35s be the equivalent cost of the latest 4+ generation aircraft.

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Naval Today said:
The US Department of Defense announced an agreement aimed at reducing the price of an F-35 Lightning II 5th generation fighter to the equivalent of today’s 4th generation fighters by the end of the decade.

Designated “The Blueprint for Affordability,” the DoD and F-35 industry partners – Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems signed an agreement to implement cost reduction initiatives to lower the production costs of F-35 aircraft.

The agreement is built upon the U.S. Government’s Better Buying Power 2.0 initiative, which encouraged defense contractors and the USG acquisition community to determine new and innovative ways to reduce the cost of their goods and services. Leading the change is an upfront investment by Lockheed Martin and F-35 industry teammates BAE Systems and Northrup Grumman.

Specifically, LM, NG, and BAE will invest up to $170 million from 2014 – 2016 in affordability measures, directly resulting in a lower-priced aircraft. Only after a reduction of cost, will industry recoup the investment plus profit with the accrued savings from the cost reduction initiatives. From 2016-2018, the USG has the option to invest additional money if the initial cost reduction initiatives are successful. The primary way the government will realize its savings is through reduced F-35 unit recurring flyaway (URF) cost.

“This is a significant change in business approach within the F-35 program,” said Lt. Gen. Chris Bogdan, F-35 Program Executive Officer. “Industry partners will make an upfront investment into cost cutting measures that the government and taxpayers will reap benefits from by buying F-35s at a lower cost. By 2019, we expect that the F-35 with its unprecedented 5th generation capability will be nearly equal in cost to any other fighter on the market, but with far more advanced capability.”

The reduced URF will have long reaching benefits for the program, and international countries purchasing F-35s will also benefit from this savings. In the future, the government is looking at similar ways to drive down the costs of operating and sustaining the F-35.

“We are taking these unprecedented measures in support of our customers’ affordability challenges,” said Lorraine Martin Executive Vice President and General Manager, F-35 Program. “We have total faith in the F-35 to support the U.S. and our allies’ future defense needs. Our industry team knows what is at stake given the current budgetary and global security demands to reach these cost milestones.”

The F-35 Lightning II is a 5th generation fighter, combining advanced stealth with fighter speed and agility, advanced mission systems, fully fused sensor information, network-enabled operations and cutting-edge sustainment. Three distinct variants of the F-35 will replace the A-10 and F-16 for the U.S. Air Force, the F/A-18 for the U.S. Navy, the F/A-18 and AV-8B Harrier for the U.S. Marine Corps, and a variety of fighters for at least 10 other countries.
 
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Air Force Brat

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now I tried to look up what that temperature actually is ... found Turbine Inlet Temperature (whatever it is) of 3600ºF = 1982.2ºC for F135-PW-100 (is this the current F-35 engine?) and, for example, 2700ºF = 1482.2ºC for
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She is a HOT one, doubt you'll find anything else nearly that warm?
 
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