F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

[Air Force Brat]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

A little patience will go an awfully long way.

Flying the aircraft, identifying, resolving and rectifying problems are all part of the F-35's life phase at present. As I said earlier, the long view needs to be adopted with these types of programs.

The F-111 in my avatar is testament to that.

Yes, and to think an aardvark by any other name is still an "aardvark"?????? While I very much appreciate your "southern" perspective, the aardvark is not generally billed as model of model of design efficiency or even form follows function, but was an aircraft that was "redeemed" by those to stubborn to give up on it.... still pricey, and still kind of a pain to maintain???

 

[SouthernSky]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

Spare me the condescending tone brat.

It was merely a reference to technical adversity being overcome, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Equation]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

Spare me the condescending tone brat.

It was merely a reference to technical adversity being overcome, nothing more, nothing less.

(Chuckle)...don't mind our member AF Brat he wasn't trying to be a smart a....s or anything that's just his sense of humor, once you get to know him. By the way welcome to SDF.

 

[SouthernSky]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

I've been around here and DT for awhile Equation. I'm familiar with the more prominent posters on both sites.

And thank you for the welcome.

 

[Air Force Brat]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

Spare me the condescending tone brat.

It was merely a reference to technical adversity being overcome, nothing more, nothing less.

I wasn't intending to be condescending Sky, just pointing out how apt your comparison is at this juncture, I well remember the F-111 and her structural failures as my Dad was in SouthEast Asia with MACVSOG, during the TET offensive, the first catastrophic failure was in early 1968, the second in May of 1968. His opinion of the F-111 was very poor, and he loved airplanes, but like most pilots, an aircraft that is plagued with catastrophic structural failure of the primary structure of the aircraft is just bad Ju-Ju.

As I'm sure you well know the F-35, like the aardvark was designed and built concurrently, and like the aardvark the F-35 has very significant issues with cracking/premature failures, and like the aardvark, the F-35 is going to be very expensive to fix post production, so yes also like the aardvark, the F-35 is a very controversial/expensive aircraft. Those sir are just the light of day facts of life, yes I do like the F-35, and yes I do think it is an absolute necessity, no I do not believe the F-35 is fatally flawed, but the engine fire is more fuel on the fire for the critics, why do you think the incident aircraft is locked in a hanger, under armed guard?????? and do you disagree that the F-35 structural issues/fire/and significant expenses will be the subject of a great many coversations???? most particularly at Farnborough? With the most significant DOD drawdown in history, and sequestration, this is a very different time than 1968, the US is in the midst of the most significant crisis of my lifetime, and I am very concerned!

oh, and my most sincere apologies to you sir, I most certainly was not intending to offend, but I find the trivializing of these significant concerns to be condescending, I can assure you that USAF, NAVY, MARINE, and LOCKMART staff are very concerned about these issues, for the SECDEF to travel to Tindel AFB, the administration is also concerned.

 

[Air Force Brat]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

(Chuckle)...don't mind our member AF Brat he wasn't trying to be a smart a....s or anything that's just his sense of humor, once you get to know him. By the way welcome to SDF.

yes welcome to SDF, and do feel free to add your two cents, I am the first to admit how much I have learned from Defense Talk, and SDF, but more importantly, the many fine gentlemen and friends, whom I also consider my brothers.

 

[SouthernSky]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

I certainly don't for a second think the issues presented in the F-35 program are trivial AFB. There is far too much riding on the aircraft in all three configurations being successful for it to be anything but. Not only for your own great country, but for other nations like my own as well. Hell, the UK is building two carriers that revolve around the aircraft being a success. Some may say that is putting the cart before the horse......

I do think we all should be a little patient though until the cause of the fire has been comprehensively established. Until then, all we are doing is speculating.

Thanks also for the welcome.

 

[Equation]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

Whether people think the F-35 latest problem is trivial or not, I don't think it will cause any kind of concern in the long run for the sustainability of the program. Like Jeff and Southernsky pointed there's too many at stake and the program had gone too far in the production stage to shut it down completely, downsize(as far as production orders)...maybe. Like I said before, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PROGRAM. Meaning running a stealth program like this ain't cheap and easy.

 

[Air Force Brat]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

I certainly don't for a second think the issues presented in the F-35 program are trivial AFB. There is far too much riding on the aircraft in all three configurations being successful for it to be anything but. Not only for your own great country, but for other nations like my own as well. Hell, the UK is building two carriers that revolve around the aircraft being a success. Some may say that is putting the cart before the horse......

I do think we all should be a little patient though until the cause of the fire has been comprehensively established. Until then, all we are doing is speculating.

Thanks also for the welcome.

Well the F-22 is also an example of taking the long view, unfortunately the production line was closed prematurely, and that airplane is the crown jewel of air superiority, the F-35 also has an enemies list in the US Senate, my point is that these are very difficult times here in the US, and with this present crew, very little is sacred.

on a more positive note the pentagon did release a statement, that the feeling is that the F-35 fire is a one off event, and that a return to flight is imminent, I hope they are correct. There is an ongoing discussion on Defense Talk posting that news, but my browser keeps shutting down, but you might check there for more detail.

 

[Jura The idiot]

re: F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Thread

Well the F-22 is also an example of taking the long view, unfortunately the production line was closed prematurely, and that airplane is the crown jewel of air superiority, the F-35 also has an enemies list in the US Senate, my point is that these are very difficult times here in the US, and with this present crew, very little is sacred.

on a more positive note the pentagon did release a statement, that the feeling is that the F-35 fire is a one off event, and that a return to flight is imminent, I hope they are correct. There is an ongoing discussion on Defense Talk posting that news, but my browser keeps shutting down, but you might check there for more detail.

I wonder if the Presentation to the Public of the F-35 Project will be changed after the flying is resumed ... I've been "closely" following the F-35 only for the last two or three months but heard info about when a particular variant will become operational, with what version of software etc. Does the World Need to Know this? (personally, I sure don't LOL but I like to read this stuff) I think this type of information is not available for related Chinese, Russian projects, and the French give it retroactively (check this:

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to see what I mean).