Brumby
Major
My friend, I think you are being unreasonable to take an argument from a document concerning Electronic Attack conditions and expect me to figure out from one of the 84 pages your line of reasoning.Brumby, you gave me "turkey shoot" baloney, that's why I'm responding again:
- you might want to consider the encounter would occur under Electronic Attack conditions (that's the term used by that USAF Major in where he basically increased the number of AAMs required to achieve a kill if I recall correctly, I don't bother with finding page numbers now), plus
- after "harassing" AAMs launches, there would be loitering missiles, yes, intentionally launched "stupidly", making the battle-space ... messy
the aircraft could be closing rather quickly ... now, Brumby:
I give up, especially on Fools' Day I won't go on with this conversation when I think you at best present Propaganda, which to me appears to be totally uncritical view of presumably "clean, safe, total victory achieved by pressing a button", and you seem to think I present utter nonsense ... so you won, thanks for arguing again, this is all I can offer EDIT actually there may be one thing, which is the most recent blog:
(when responding to you yesterday
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/f-22-raptor-thread.t6557/page-63#post-394147
I was unaware of it: I mostly use Russian sources for what you of course disbelieve)
I am wondering whether we are even talking about the same thing. Your position is about the efficacy of a preemptive AAM launch and its effect would be sufficiently disruptive on the F-22's. I assumed initially we both understood the same meaning of pre-emptive and responded accordingly based on that assumption. I would just reiterate what that assumption means. Pre-emption means an action independent of causative feed. It means you would launch on a regular basis a bunch of AAM's into the sky in the hope that some F-22's would turn up in a particular ingress flight path at the right time and in certain sector that would correspond to your AAM launch and be disrupted by it. That to me is not a very efficient and effective tactic.