Espionage involving China

BlackWindMnt

Captain
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This has been known for sometime. I first heard of it on the Chinese internet probably 15 to 20 years ago, along with the stories of China letting US-made weapons through to the Afghan

Just a few years ago, using Google I stumped across a self-claimed CIA retiree's memoir about this joint spy on Soviet Union. But I cannot find it anymore. According to this author's recount, IIRC, there was at least one electronic surveillance station located in northern Xinjiang to spy on the Baikonur Cosmodrome.
A few more such facilities were also built and operated along the border between China and Soviet Union/Mongolia.

Nowadays, this is taken as a proof by some Chinese left dissenters to accuse Deng of selling China to the US.
I think I also read about this in Micheal pilsburys "The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower"
 

dxq4412

Junior Member
Registered Member
What do you mean? can you elaborate more on this statement if you don't mind?
150 years ago, China was at the end of the Qing Dynasty. At that time, the vast majority of Chinese elites still firmly believed that they were the so-called "Heavenly Kingdom", and showed absolute arrogance and ignorance in the face of Western science and technology. According to the classical Chinese theory at that time, the science and technology of the West were nothing more than tricks stolen from China, and the West was all barbarians who did not understand the ways of Confucius and Mencius.
Looking back, the three most obvious characteristics of the Chinese people 150 years ago: disunity, ignorance, and insensitivity, and it was these three characteristics that made China fall into a century of humiliation.
Of course, modern Americans are still far from the Chinese 150 years ago, but certain similar trends are enough to attract the attention and self-examination of American elites.
Used google translate, apologies for my poor grammar.
 

STRIKEFALCON

Banned Idiot
Registered Member
It’s a pretty intense situation, and I get why both sides would want to keep it under wraps. With the constant tension between the US and China, something like this could blow up and make things even more complicated. I’m not surprised by the secrecy – these kinds of incidents usually stay quiet until they blow up in public. It’s hard to know what’s really going on behind the scenes, but if it’s true, it could definitely mess with future relations between the two.
 
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