Espionage involving China

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Heliox

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Temstar said:
It seems overall trust in the government have increased slightly. All these people who were caught up in the moment and were suspecting that government was trying to cover something up saw instead the government was actually trying to protect the privacy of the family.

Now you force the government to reveal the security footage and we see the last few minutes of this young man's life. After this some people have done some soul searching and realised they didn't actually care if someone ate one bowl of rice jelly or two, but were just crowding around watching him slice open his stomach. Well now you have your answer but he's dead.

It's also woken up a lot of people on just how closely foreign agents might be operating around them and the dangers of coloured revolution. The people's level of alertness regrading security have also increased.
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Yup, one should always "let the bullets fly" their full course.
Any commentary before that is just attempts at fortune telling.
 
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SanWenYu

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Maikeru said:
Interesting little bit of history:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496190537019310087
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This has been known for sometime. I first heard of it on the Chinese internet probably 15 to 20 years ago, along with the stories of China letting US-made weapons through to the Afghan

Just a few years ago, using Google I stumped across a self-claimed CIA retiree's memoir about this joint spy on Soviet Union. But I cannot find it anymore. According to this author's recount, IIRC, there was at least one electronic surveillance station located in northern Xinjiang to spy on the Baikonur Cosmodrome. A few more such facilities were also built and operated along the border between China and Soviet Union/Mongolia.

Nowadays, this is taken as a proof by some Chinese left dissenters to accuse Deng of selling China to the US.
 
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SanWenYu

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yungho said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1496335883188174848

From the same thread. Little did Deng know how right he was haha
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The version I heard is slightly different though. It was Jimmy Carter who suggested that Deng should allow Chinese citizens to travel and emigrate freely. Deng responded by asking Carter how many Chinese he is ready to take. "How about 20 millions?" asked Deng.

But I think it is likely a story made up by Chinese. You can sense the bitterness in self-deprecating.
 
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Biscuits

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SanWenYu said:
This has been known for sometime. I first heard of it on the Chinese internet probably 15 to 20 years ago, along with the stories of China letting US-made weapons through to the Afghan

Just a few years ago, using Google I stumped across a self-claimed CIA retiree's memoir about this joint spy on Soviet Union. But I cannot find it anymore. According to this author's recount, IIRC, there was at least one electronic surveillance station located in northern Xinjiang to spy on the Baikonur Cosmodrome. A few more such facilities were also built and operated along the border between China and Soviet Union/Mongolia.

Nowadays, this is taken as a proof by some Chinese left dissenters to accuse Deng of selling China to the US.
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Ultimate the USSR had to put down, otherwise we wouldn't have the loyal Russia we have today. It was geopolitics, both Mao and Deng knew from Khrushchev onwards it was almost certainly a lost cause. Better to hard reset them under Chinese guidance than let them keep slowly killing socialism under their own leadership.

The most dangerous moment is that America would be able to outcompete China for Russia's favor once the USSR collapsed. However, they were outplayed in that regard.
 
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