SU-30s can carry the A2A load out and have better range and loiter capabilities.
But actually, perhaps PLAN J-11B would be used?
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But actually, perhaps PLAN J-11B would be used?
solarz
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Reading some of the other articles on this incident, it appears to me that the US believes there are a set of rules that one should follow in these kinds of encounters. The problem is, they don't seem to have asked whether China agrees to those rules.
I do not view SIGINT missions as "safe", nor do I view close surveillance missions that way.
Cat and mouse, semi-aggressive actions are also not abnormal.
My guess is that this mission was aimed squarely at exercises the PLAN was conducting.
But as long as the snoop aircraft stay in international air space, they should not be hazarded.
That is an easy rule to understand and follow...by everyone.
The US did not seek to hazard the Chinese surveillance ship that snooped on the at-sea naval exercises at RIMPAC...just noted it was there. It was in international waters.
Actually there is a very well written and universal standard for air intercepts, stray to far from that, and you'll be swimming your sorry butt home. Doesn't need to be friendly, but lots of times they are, waving, picture taking, mooning, flying the bird, a good sense of humor keeps things cool???? but this is beyond the pale. So President Xi is going to play games???? while I am sure we will "play it Kool", this is exactly why I labeled and continue to label the Chinese ADIZ "provocative". If someone "lights up" someone on radar???? then what???????
Equation
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It's only provocative because one don't respect it. If one don't like the ill feeling spying near a China ADIZ than stay away next time. Who said the ECADIZ is just like the other that has to follow the "universal standard" for intercepts?
SinoSoldier
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And at last, we have fresh photographs taken by the patrol aircraft of the recent incident, with kudos going to the Navy. The interception occurred approximately 130 miles east of Hainan, when the P-8 Poseidon was approached by a J-11BH. The fighter supposedly came within 20 feet wingtip-to-wingtip of the Poseidon. I do not possess the credence of a military expert, but 20 feet sounds extremely tight in light of the velocities and sizes of the aircraft involved; it's a relief the respective pilots were able to maintain cool emotions and follow protocol.
Seems like both sides took a lesson or two from the previous incident which exhibited similar operational motifs as this one.
Seems like both sides took a lesson or two from the previous incident which exhibited similar operational motifs as this one.
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Looks like the PLA is confident enough with WS-10A to use J-11BHs equipped with it on intercepts.
Also good to see a decent missile outload
Clearly most reports are unable to distinguish between J-11Bs and Su-27s.
It is also rare to see an inflight photo of the naval J-11B. I find the naval gray paint far more attractive than the dark blue/grey of regular Air Force. I suppose we should thank the P-8 air crew for these pics
Also good to see a decent missile outload
Clearly most reports are unable to distinguish between J-11Bs and Su-27s.
It is also rare to see an inflight photo of the naval J-11B. I find the naval gray paint far more attractive than the dark blue/grey of regular Air Force. I suppose we should thank the P-8 air crew for these pics
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SinoSoldier
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Looks like the PLA is confident enough with WS-10A to use J-11BHs equipped with it on intercepts.
Also good to see a decent missile outload
Clearly most reports are unable to distinguish between J-11Bs and Su-27s.
J-11BSHs were already used to enforce the Eastern portion of the ADIZ, so the entry of the WS-10A into Chinese service shouldn't come as a surprise. It is only a matter of time before the Chinese would face the dichotomy of choosing either a domestic engine that can be produced at the whim of the military (albeit slightly worse reliability) or an import that comes with many strings attached, so I'd expect the WS-10 to see significant service even if it were crucially inept in regards to capability.
The missile load is standard for interceptions, and we have seen it before in other similar encounters.
A MAWS sensor, centered IRST, and black radome are common aesthetic marks of the "B" variant.
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Looks like the PLA is confident enough with WS-10A to use J-11BHs equipped with it on intercepts.
Also good to see a decent missile outload
Clearly most reports are unable to distinguish between J-11Bs and Su-27s.
It is also rare to see an inflight photo of the naval J-11B. I find the naval gray paint far more attractive than the dark blue/grey of regular Air Force. I suppose we should thank the P-8 air crew for these pics
totally unrelated but khazakstan has 4 flankers in china for that SCO exercise right now and they are painted a beautiful blue camo. very eye catching and wish china would do that for their flankers but this J-11 grey looks good in the above photos too. it seems the Chinese ADIZ is giving their pilots lots of action and that's a great thing.
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