Discussing long term impacts of Ukraine crisis

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Bellum_Romanum said:
Don't you see the fight in Ukraine is all about "Freedom" and saving "Democracy" why are you against Freedom? You're just parroting Putin talking points. So says the usual brain dead moralizing lemmings. It scares me that the majority of the people in the west have limitless ways to excuse their murders, genocide, mayhem, chaos, and destruction by simply reciting "Freedom" and "Democracy" and the vast majority of people in the western world simply swallow these all up and say "AMEN." It's frightening in the effectiveness of blatant propaganda.
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Seems to me that what we are seeing is the same type of tribalism and nationalism that lead to World War 1.

Let's keep it in Europe for the sake of everyone else.
 
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Phead128 said:
So Prof Mearsheimer is an opportunistic blood sucker, and changes his rhetoric to fit his captive audience. To the US audience, he is anti-China. To an Chinese audience, he is pro-Russia/anti-US. Whatever pays his rice bowl.
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Now, you're just being a troll. I have read the man's books, watched his debates even against one of my favorite Asian intellectual and former diplomat, Prof.Kishore Mahbubani to know he (Mearsheimer) has always been an ardent realist and has been consistently been singing his anti-China strategy to those who would listen, and he has enough gumption to express these thoughts to his CHINESE AUDIENCE IN CHINA. So how is he exactly duplicitous?
 
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Petrolicious88

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Minm said:
China doesn't need to sell its holdings of US treasuries, it just has to hold them in a bank account outside the west. If the US refuses to pay interest on them, they would be in default, which they haven't been willing to do with russia. 1 trillion dollars is also not really a lot of money when your GDP is 18 trillion.
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The entire point of treasuries is to keep them on US territory. That’s why they are treasuries. You cant easily onshore them or transfer them elsewhere.

China will most likely slowly sell them off.
 
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Bellum_Romanum said:
Now, you're just being a troll. I have read the man's books, watched his debates even against one of my favorite Asian intellectual and former diplomat, Prof.Kishore Mahbubani to know he (Mearsheimer) has always been an ardent realist and has been consistently been singing his anti-China strategy to those who would listen, and he has enough gumption to express these thoughts to his CHINESE AUDIENCE IN CHINA. So how is he exactly duplicitous?
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@Phead128 here is the old geezer in China back in 2019 debating Prof. Yan Xuetong of Tsinghua University in Beijing.

 
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jfcarli

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The "Collective West" has placed disastrous sanctions on Venezuela and Iran, now on Russia.

The US now is desperate to finalize the JCPOA deal in order to boost Iranian sales of oil and has sent a delegation to Venezuela in order to get oil from Venezuela. Can you imagine to what point their desperation has come?

Just heard from a friend of mine in the Venezuelan embassy that one of the conditions of supplying oil now is that they be paid either in Petroyuans or gold.

It seems to me also that Russia and Iran may join the demand. None of them wants any "Western" currency at all.

Can you imagine the US having to buy oil paying in Petroyuan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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