Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

horse said:

There is another related point here.

That is the view of the strategic position.

Is this strategy from Biden to contain China by restricting tech which will derail China tech ambitions ... what kind of strategy is this?

Is this a strong strategy? Or it is a weak strategy.

This is a very important point. Because what CCP thinks of this Biden strategy will determine it's actions.

I am pretty sure that the Sun Tzu Bing Fa said when the enemy runs, you chase.

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Biden doesn't need to do anything substantial to derail China's tech development strategy.

As I said, Europe and Japan doesn't like China seizing Technological supremacy. The only reason they didn't take stern action is because of the lack of leadership and unilateral ism by Trump admin.

Biden expounds multilateral ism. European leaders like that. Suga of Japan like that.
And they'll start to coordinate better.

Xsizor said:

Biden doesn't need to do anything substantial to derail China's tech development strategy.

As I said, Europe and Japan doesn't like China seizing Technological supremacy. The only reason they didn't take stern action is because of the lack of leadership and unilateral ism by Trump admin.

Biden expounds multilateral ism. European leaders like that. Suga of Japan like that.
And they'll start to coordinate better.

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No they don't.

As much as unilateralism/multilateralism impacts other aspects of foreign policy, i heavily doubt it has substantial impact on tech war.

Above everything, my hope is that we get back to good ol' politics where nations negotiate privately and not on twitter.

No more jock bullshit.

localizer said:

Above everything, my hope is that we get back to good ol' politics where nations negotiate privately and not on twitter.

No more jock bullshit.

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Why not? I liked twitter foreign policy .

Xsizor said:

Biden doesn't need to do anything substantial to derail China's tech development strategy.

As I said, Europe and Japan doesn't like China seizing Technological supremacy. The only reason they didn't take stern action is because of the lack of leadership and unilateral ism by Trump admin.

Biden expounds multilateral ism. European leaders like that. Suga of Japan like that.
And they'll start to coordinate better.

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But comrade, that Biden has that, it is an extreme weak hand.

That is weaker than weak, that is close to non-existent.

Who leads the world in 5G? No one even close to building standalone 5G network except for one. Derailing China's tech ambitions did not work there. 5G is suppose to usher in another industrial revolution, and Huawei is leading the way.

China still does not have a leading edge semiconductor industry in every single level, but how long can we expect that situation to last?

Other than that, there is not that much to the fight in the tech war.

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A tech war, in the end, is still a trade war.

If one side has bans and is restricting market access, the other side will have bans and will restrict market access.

Do trade wars work? Would anyone other than the Americans want to start another trade war with China?

Australia!

Nobonita Barua said:

Why not? I liked twitter foreign policy .

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There's the stuff you give to the public for show.

Then there's the behind the doors stuff that gets things done.

It's important to distinguish the 2 but Trumpo just fucked up the order.

Bush, Obama, Trump are all anti-China. They have different methods, and in the end it all doesn't work well. There is no miracle that helps the United States achieve the same population, the ability to produce goods cheaper and faster, or a homogeneous, less violent and chaotic society like China. An individual's will is not enough.

FangYuan said:

Bush, Obama, Trump ... are all anti-China. They have different methods, and in the end it all doesn't work well. There is no miracle that helps the United States achieve an equal population, the ability to produce goods cheaper and faster, or a homogeneous society with less violence and chaos like China. An individual's will is not enough.

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A lot of times I question, are humans really that much more advanced than other species?

If we breed and train animals to produce certain behaviors/traits, are humans suddenly above that? Is more freedom for humans the correct way to shape your society?

How much freedom is too much if you want to build an prosperous and everlasting civilization?

localizer said:

A lot of times I question, are humans really that much more advanced than other species?

If we breed and train animals to produce certain behaviors/traits, are humans suddenly above that? Is more freedom for humans the correct way to shape your society?

How much freedom is too much if you want to build an prosperous and everlasting civilization?

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Deng Xiaoping famously said "It doesn't matter whether a cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice."

localizer said:

There's the stuff you give to the public for show.

Then there's the behind the doors stuff that gets things done.

It's important to distinguish the 2 but Trumpo just fucked up the order.

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Lol, that's exactly why i liked it.