Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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emblem21

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All that is if Biden can clean up whatever mess Trump has left him with.

And Trump can do a lot of damage in the next 2-3 months.

Also Biden is demented and Harris might take the rein any day now.
Also to note is that the pandemic is far from over in The USA given that 100k a day is simply too crazy a number that will be near impossible to reverse and also a massive turn off for future investors given that people can easily catch and be hampered for life from a virus that does have an easy cure for the majority of the people. And let’s add in the food shortages and the unemployment being in the 50+ million range (don’t rely on the fake numbers that the government gives). Also note that there allies in Europe are about to be shutdown again meaning that they are also in deep shit as well so no help will come from there.
If Biden cannot solve these issues while having to print money endlessly well if there stock market/ economy finally crashes, well everyone is going to bail from the USA and given that the nation is in such a poor state that no person In Their right mind would be able to fix these problems (especially Biden in the short time he has left.
Trump has done enough damage that it would take the USA a complete change in the way things are done to fix these issues which of course is impossible with Biden in charge (he will follow the same way of doing things that has been done in the past and this has been shown time and again to not work).
Also given that Trump no longer has anyway forward, you can expect no stimulus until late January and by then you can expect real civil war to occur since I doubt any of the majority has any savings to last until January so I guess every man for themselves. Then this whole issue with China will fade into the back ground while Biden has to solves all these issues assuming that he has the time because if the USA runs low on resources and the majority are hungry and without job or money, well if I was an American what more important, an imaginary enemy that cannot be bothered with me despite what the media says or what is on the table for my next meal and a government that is not helping at all and a pandemic that is a literal death sentence. Trump is likely to take revenge and 2-3 months is enough time to do exactly that.
Also note that the USA is almost completely broke so they cannot really rally there allies if there is really nothing in it for them and also, it would be to these nations benefit if the dollar falls so honestly why would these nations bother funding the USA citizens way of life if they aren’t grateful.
 

B.I.B.

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Biden will be worse for China because he can rally Europe and East Asian "allies" to create an informal yet formal coalition that excludes China from technological preeminence.

How?

1. Create an open-yet-closed system where technological standards and regulations are set by the aforementioned coalition. This means China only has the heft of its large market to counter such a predicament.

2. China could be automatically excluded by the reasoning that it isn't a fully open market economy. That creates pressure on Chinese authorities to open up on US gov will.

3. China's BRI could be countered by a collective action fund created by the blessings of Europe-US-Japan.

4. US would be more successful in enforcing its will regarding semiconductors and 5G since Trade war with Europe and Japan/SK is removed or curbed.

5. Now that Canada US relation are getting warm, A Britain led CANZUK alliance could become a reality. And that Alliance could work better with US.

6.India US relations will get warmer now that there is no trade war and complaints with India.


Biden is bad. Extremely bad.

You are forgetting that Biden has his own $700 billion 'By American Plan' that could annoy EU Korea Japan as much as China.
 

horse

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Please look at these two graphics.

If they can snap their fingers and manage to reverse the trends in these two graphics, then there is no chance.

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Also, in the next 15-20 years, the Chinese economy will double, assuming no exchange rate changes and that the Chinese economy grows around 5%.

Basically by that time, the Chinese economy will be twice the size of the US economy, and China will be part of the largest trading block the RCEP, and still developing along the BRI which is seven times larger in real terms than the famed Marshall Plan that rebuilt Europe.

The BRI being countered is not realistic.

There will be no larger trading block than RCEP, plus the fact this will be the fastest growing block, because of China, the dynamism of the Chinese economy. All we need to do is review the results of the current trade war.
 

localizer

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Please look at these two graphics.

If they can snap their fingers and manage to reverse the trends in these two graphics, then there is no chance.

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Also, in the next 15-20 years, the Chinese economy will double, assuming no exchange rate changes and that the Chinese economy grows around 5%.

Basically by that time, the Chinese economy will be twice the size of the US economy, and China will be part of the largest trading block the RCEP, and still developing along the BRI which is seven times larger in real terms than the famed Marshall Plan that rebuilt Europe.

The BRI being counted is not realistic.

There will be no larger trading block than RCEP, plus the fact this will be the fastest growing block, because of China, the dynamism of the Chinese economy. All we need to do is review the results of the current trade war.


From here on, the only thing that can fuk up China's future is itself. Poor policies/bad leadership like the what is bringing the US down.
 

Xizor

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Please look at these two graphics.

If they can snap their fingers and manage to reverse the trends in these two graphics, then there is no chance.

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Also, in the next 15-20 years, the Chinese economy will double, assuming no exchange rate changes and that the Chinese economy grows around 5%.

Basically by that time, the Chinese economy will be twice the size of the US economy, and China will be part of the largest trading block the RCEP, and still developing along the BRI which is seven times larger in real terms than the famed Marshall Plan that rebuilt Europe.

The BRI being countered is not realistic.

There will be no larger trading block than RCEP, plus the fact this will be the fastest growing block, because of China, the dynamism of the Chinese economy. All we need to do is review the results of the current trade war.
You are missing the point.
Biden is not interested in the trade deficit. Trump was. Biden isn't.
China being the biggest trading partner is not an issue for the Western led World Order.
But China seizing technical prominence is.
Made in China 2025 is.

Biden can do a lot to further damage Made in China 2025(2030 really) as well as BRI.

Europe wants a Democrat led US to lead. Not in favor of China's aspirations either.
 

horse

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From here on, the only thing that can fuk up China's future is itself. Poor policies/bad leadership like the what is bringing the US down.
Yeah, there is no chance of stopping China, and slowing it down does even seem like slowing it down. Case in point, when will we see 7nm manufactured on the mainland? Does not even matter if the foreigners help, because maybe they want to help? Nudge nudge wink wink.

We should not lie to ourselves. What is realistic is the closest to the truth.
 

horse

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You are missing the point.
Biden is not interested in the trade deficit. Trump was. Biden isn't.
China being the biggest trading partner is not an issue for the Western led World Order.
But China seizing technical prominence is.
Made in China 2025 is.

Biden can do a lot to further damage Made in China 2025(2030 really) as well as BRI.

Europe wants a Democrat led US to lead. Not in favor of China's aspirations either.
Not to be combative, but if that is what team Biden is thinking of, then they are delusional and dreaming.

The CCP will protest loudly, and that's it.

Just get to work.

:)
 

horse

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You are missing the point.
Biden is not interested in the trade deficit. Trump was. Biden isn't.
China being the biggest trading partner is not an issue for the Western led World Order.
But China seizing technical prominence is.
Made in China 2025 is.

Biden can do a lot to further damage Made in China 2025(2030 really) as well as BRI.

Europe wants a Democrat led US to lead. Not in favor of China's aspirations either.
There is another related point here.

That is the view of the strategic position.

Is this strategy from Biden to contain China by restricting tech which will derail China tech ambitions ... what kind of strategy is this?

Is this a strong strategy? Or it is a weak strategy.

This is a very important point. Because what CCP thinks of this Biden strategy will determine it's actions.

I am pretty sure that the Sun Tzu Bing Fa said when the enemy runs, you chase.
 
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