Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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Gatekeeper said:
No chance. Here China received the Taliban from Afghanistan straight after meeting U.S. No.2 Wilson.

People are quite quick to forget that China didn't started, not wanted all these animosities between the two nations. It was the U.S. that had done this, and therefore it is down to the U.S. to undo this. And it can do this by not coming from a "position of strength".

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Back in ancient times, a state had to prove its commitment and sincerity to peace by presenting the heads of its own War Party to their foreign counterparts.

In more modern times, this could be accomplished with a modern purge of the USG; say, corruption and murder charges against pompeo, navarro et al. Any hypothetical american president who really wanted things to go back to the way they were, status quo antebellum would have to prove it with the castration of the China Hawks
 
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Gatekeeper said:
No chance. Here China received the Taliban from Afghanistan straight after meeting U.S. No.2 Wilson.

People are quite quick to forget that China didn't started, not wanted all these animosities between the two nations. It was the U.S. that had done this, and therefore it is down to the U.S. to undo this. And it can do this by not coming from a "position of strength".

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With the Chinese statement of supporting the Taliban so long as they disavow terrorist organisations like ETIM, could this be a sign that China is demanding those responsible for the pakistan terrorist attacks in return for support?
 
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They are not exactly wrong though.

Who knows what will happen when Putin steps down?

It is important to know that Russia's elites and common people admire the West and actively try to use Western culture (sans some things such as LGBT).

So from the US' perspective it is logical for them to wait for Putin to step down (either naturally or by other means) and then use this "superior Western culture" to draw Russia to its fold.

China still needs at least 10 more years to seriously change its image of a poor country to Russia
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The Russian people may admire the West. But Russian elites from their political schools, universities, and major think tanks have a deep mistrust of the US. These people will form the backbone of Russian policies towards the US even after Putin is gone.
 
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DarkStar said:
Back in ancient times, a state had to prove its commitment and sincerity to peace by presenting the heads of its own War Party to their foreign counterparts.

In more modern times, this could be accomplished with a modern purge of the USG; say, corruption and murder charges against pompeo, navarro et al. Any hypothetical american president who really wanted things to go back to the way they were, status quo antebellum would have to prove it with the castration of the China Hawks
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Well the USA even after everything that is happening from the natural disasters, pandemic and economy on the verge of implosion is still looking for new conquest because the government in it childish behavior has never really suffered as a result of its actions (and no, PTSD for its ground forces mean nothing due to them being the perpetrators and also because they don't view there actions all that seriously at all) and as a result don't give a damn at all. Hence really, the only way to free the world from these vermin is simply to wipe these people out as slowly and as painfully as possible so that the world can finally understand the fundamental truths of what goes around, comes around. All of these war hawks deserve to be thrown naked in front of the Taliban so that they can have a good taste in regards to finally feeling the wrath of those they have wronged with there stupid wars. Any talk about peace can never come until the USA has shed much blood for each lives they have ruined for no reason other then being for money purposes
 
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emblem21 said:
Well the USA even after everything that is happening from the natural disasters, pandemic and economy on the verge of implosion is still looking for new conquest because the government in it childish behavior has never really suffered as a result of its actions (and no, PTSD for its ground forces mean nothing due to them being the perpetrators and also because they don't view there actions all that seriously at all) and as a result don't give a damn at all. Hence really, the only way to free the world from these vermin is simply to wipe these people out as slowly and as painfully as possible so that the world can finally understand the fundamental truths of what goes around, comes around. All of these war hawks deserve to be thrown naked in front of the Taliban so that they can have a good taste in regards to finally feeling the wrath of those they have wronged with there stupid wars. Any talk about peace can never come until the USA has shed much blood for each lives they have ruined for no reason other then being for money purposes
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What Temstar mentioned about relegating japan to only its main four islands would be a good start to peace in Asia if they join in on an anglo instigated war on China but given the conduct of anglo america in asia, it would be absolutely unacceptable for any anglo or western nation to have any sort of military presence in Asia. Asia needs to be freed from white european colonial predation as such infestation has been constant since the 16th century.

Biden is going for 'hybrid war' and you saw that in HK with trump and pompeo trying to start a colour revolution in the city with the intention of trying to enforce a no fly zone as they did in libya. The anglos are not especially courageous unlike say, the russians so they will do as they always have done and bribe and convince a weak and white worshipping asian state to be their spear carrier and cannon fodder. Before Duterte,the Philippines would have been ideal, or vietnam but sadly it appears that taiwan and japan are taking on that role.
 
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How the US shot itself in the foot with indictment against Chinese ‘hackers’​

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  • The details in the indictment against the Chinese nationals were most likely obtained by a US government hacking operation
  • China is hardly an outlier in a world where cyberspying and hacking is what modern intelligence agencies in all countries are paid to do

 
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"The voices in Beijing arguing that it is time to use these newfound military capabilities against Taiwan have grown louder, a telling development in an era of greater censorship. Several retired military officers have argued publicly that the longer China waits, the harder it will be to take control of Taiwan. Articles in state-run news outlets and on popular websites have likewise urged China to act swiftly. And if public opinion polls are to be believed, the Chinese people agree that the time has come to resolve the Taiwan issue once and for all. According to a survey by the state-run Global Times, 70 percent of mainlanders
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using force to unify Taiwan with the mainland, and 37 percent think it would be best if the war occurred in three to five years."


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"The voices in Beijing arguing that it is time to use these newfound military capabilities against Taiwan have grown louder, a telling development in an era of greater censorship. Several retired military officers have argued publicly that the longer China waits, the harder it will be to take control of Taiwan. Articles in state-run news outlets and on popular websites have likewise urged China to act swiftly. And if public opinion polls are to be believed, the Chinese people agree that the time has come to resolve the Taiwan issue once and for all. According to a survey by the state-run Global Times, 70 percent of mainlanders
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using force to unify Taiwan with the mainland, and 37 percent think it would be best if the war occurred in three to five years."


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So? This is like saying that 80 percent of Americans want to kick out all the illegal Mexican immigrants according to a poll by Fox News. If they polled Caixin then probably less than 10 percent would answer yes to reunification by force.
 
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